Re: SBS2008 install from my MS Action Pack
- From: "kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:03:10 -0700
Gonzalo wrote:
Thanks KJ, Cliff for the input,
I did called Microstf and spoke with a Pre-Sales License Specialist
and after some research he told me that yes, you can use Premium
licenses on a Standard version. Aparently the SBS2008 licensing is
made so you can mix and match Standard and Premium CALs depending on
if the users will need access to SQL servers on the domain or not...
He sent me to the following URL:
http://www.microsoftvolumelicensing.com/userights/
where you can download the Product User Rights which confirms that
SBS2008 Premuim CALs can be used on SBS2008 standard and that an
SBS2008 Premium CAL is all is needed to access any SQL server on the
domain...
Thanks!
Thank you for posting back your discovered information. While it is
important to individually assure our compliance with licensing, it's nice to
have a handy reference for those generic situations.
Note too that in this case Action Pack licensing is yet a little different
and it wouldn't be a bad idea to shoot off an email to your MAPS regional
service center to confirm what the Volume Licensing Specialist has provided
you.
"kj [SBS MVP]" wrote:
Hmmm. I don't think it's right either. (that'll teach me to finish
that cup 'o joe before reading).
However, MS has done essentially the same thing for SBSC's in the
action pack program.
....but I completely agree with the phone call to MS Licensing for an
authoritative answer.
Cliff Galiher wrote:
Hmmm, I'm not sure that is true. Because he is running SBS
standard and adding a separately licensed SQL server, I don't think
you can 'shortcut' with the CALs because technically he isn't
running SBS premium, even if the end result is the same software
setup. MS can be picky about licensing in this regard.
Personally I wouldn't run the risk of being out of compliance by
trusting information in this newsgroup. This is worth a quick call
to Microsoft directly.
-Cliff
"kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uyVuDjdaJHA.1352@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Gonzalo Parra wrote:
But what about licensing?
We want to use SBS2008 internally for our company but we have more
than 5 users so I need to buy more cals, is I install it like that
(SBS 2008 Standard + Win2008 + SQL Standard) then should I buy
PremiumCALs? or Standard CALs + SQL CALs?
any help appreciated...
If the added users will acccess SQL, then they will need premium
CALs. Otherwise standard CALs will be fine.
"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
Oh... right. I guessed that Dave was asking if his AP included
"Premium" so that he could install a second server with or
without SQL. As you point out, if the SQL in the AP is SQL
Standard, it doesn't matter. And, what the Premium part gives
you is a second Server license and a License for SQL, which is
included in the AP, so imo AP gives you either the same or more
than SBS 2008 Premium.
You nailed it with the distinction between SQL Standard (can be
installed on any appropriate server), and SQL Standard for Small
Business, which is the same thing with a different label and
EULA, restricting it to SBS servers or SBS (preferably) domain
member or SBS additional DC servers.
Next question will be if the SQL in the AP is *not* SQL Standard
for Small Business, could it be installed on / in both the SBS
network and on a stand alone server or member of a different
network, either Domain or Workgroup. That will depend on the
number of licenses/installs granted by the AP license.
-Larry
"Les Connor" <les.connor@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uSJ%23QHoRJHA.3880@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Right, but depending on the SQL that comes with AP (if it's the
SBS specific SQL), I believe it checks to see that it's
installing on a member server in the SBS 2008 network.
If the AP version of SQL isn't the SBS SQL, then it's a
non-issue I'd think.
--
Les Connor [SBS-MVP]
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"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" <lstruckmeyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote in message news:%230E5PvnRJHA.5348@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
There is no management relationship between the SBS 2008
installation and other servers on your LAN. You can add as
many as you have licenses for, and add them to the domain and
the RWW landing page manually.
-Larry
"Les Connor" <les.connor@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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That I don't know; it might be a question for the MAPS folks.
However, I'd expect you should be able to install WS 2008
standard (either 32 or 64) on another box, and then SQL on
that. You need the second server OS for SQL to run on.
--
Les Connor [SBS-MVP]
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"Dave Thursby" <thursby_david@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eutr9zmRJHA.4824@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Les, the Microsft Action pack here in the UK doesn't come
with the Premium version but it does come with SBS2008
Standard and includes an SQL DVD. We needed to know if you
install SBS2K8 standard, is it just a case of installing SQL
2K8 on another box? gary
"Les Connor" <les.connor@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You should be using SBS Premium, not SBS Standard.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc794697.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc816563.aspx
--
Les Connor [SBS-MVP]
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"Gary D" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I have installed SBS2008 Standard on my 1st hardware
platform. I am now ready to install SQL2008 on our 2nd
platform. Does anybody know which server 2008 standard I
need to use for the SQL2008 to sit on ?
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/kj
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