Re: exch 2003 will not pass email to external IPS mail server
- From: TxLonghornRedRaider <ppandmary@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:25:01 -0800 (PST)
Thanks for the ideas.
The listing of users: "13 internal member users, 1 user that never
comes to the office,1 technical (can easily set up an outlook.....1
can surf the..... " was primarily to show a level of effort I will
need to teach these guys how to accomplish the remote email process
that is finally decided. I have to do screen captures and draw circles/
arrows just to select a printer other than the default; ____they still
ask questions____.
How did I miss RWW? I was working so hard to twist exchange to do what
I wanted I guess. I wonder why any of my group searched never
uncovered anything about RWW? I typed the post's title wrong put "IPS"
vs ISP. Can you or I change it so searches will point to RWW
solutions?
Back to the technical...
Do I implement the pop connector for all users once I get RWW fully
established?
The server has only 1 NIC with a Netgear VPN router firewall. I assume
I don't need 2 server NICs to accomplish these suggestions.
The 5VPN router was actually used for remote access in the past
(worked quite well). About 3 months ago this business moved to the
21st century moving from a peer-to-peer (yes 13-18 connections at a
time). They are slowly moving to a robust client/server arrangement
which actually keeps everyone connected.
So I am looking for more good How-To info sites or direction. Seems
the immediate need is for RWW and OWA; i.e. "RWW landing page" doesn't
make any sense to me just yet.. I found a RWW site blogs.tech.com and
am sure there are other sites probably better. I would appreciate any
How-to of info links you can send my way.
Blessings...
Paul IT @ Bethany Lutheran Church blcms.org
On Dec 4, 7:23 pm, "Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" <lstruckme...@mis-
wizards.com> wrote:
Some ideas for you in line below:
Here is the story:
The goal is to have all users check their email from home or a place
they may visit.
13 internal member users,
-who use OL at the desktop, connect to your exchange server, good.
1 user that never comes to the office,
-OWA or Outlook Anywhere.
1 technical (can easily set up an outlook account)
-From Where? Home? Traveling NB?
1 can surf the web from anywhere (takes laptop with him at times),
-OWA or Outlook Anywhere
1 laptop user has troubles connecting to free wireless,
-don't know how to help him connect to unknown free wireless. EBKC?
all users want to view mail from home
-RWW to their own desktops in the office, OWA or Outlook Anywhere
2 users want to connect up from computer at secondary job (probably
behind a firewall).
-RWW to desktop, or OWA, depending on rules in force at second job. Also
hard to help them.
The mail access from remote locations is primarily "FYI reading
process" to keep caught up with email; 90% of the work is done while
connected to exchange. But some of the time a used has to come back to
work to because his email cannot be accessed from the computer he is
using.
-Need to know more. There is no blanket reason why mail should not be
available from any computer that can access the internet by RWW or -OWA, or
even Outlook Anywhere.
-OWA or Outlook Anywhere is being connected to Exchange. In fact, OWA is
the only supplied way to connect to Exchange in SBS 2008, or -indeed any
installation of Exchange 2007.
OWA has worked fine in house but has not been investigated for off-
site use.
-Go for it. Also look at your RWW landing page for how to setup Outlook
Anywhere. And for those that have in house desktops, or are willing to
share them, use RWW to Connect to My Computer at Work
Distribution list are primarily local on the individual outlook
machines. A future goal is to have global distribution list (2-3 lists
with max of 25 contacts in each) so an admin can keep the one current
instead of 13 users keeping their own list current.
-Don't have the slightest idea what you mean here. If the users are using
exchange mail, then the distribution lists should be in the GAL, not in
their personal mailbox.
Have not used TS before.
-Probably no need for TS, with most users having their own desktops to
connect to via RWW when they are out of the office.
On Dec 4, 4:38 pm, "Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" <lstruckme...@mis-
wizards.com> wrote:
Cliff is right, if you want web mail. There are lots of other options.
Assuming that the users who are to get the mail are members of your
organization, you could use Outlook Anywhere, or a Terminal Server with
each
having their own Outlook on the TS, or (ugh, last choice) the external
users
could pop from your server.
It would really help if we knew the goal here.
Internal User John, who also wants to view the mail from home?
Internal User John, and external User Bill, who is part of your company
but
never comes into the office.
Internal User John, and external User Fred, who is a contract worker,
supplier, etc who is not part of the organization and should receive
selected mail?
Distribution List? Mail Enabled Contact?
Help us help.
-Larry
"Cliff Galiher" <cgali...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Jr2dnSNP5_gey6XUnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
There is no *reliable* way to force this across the organization. You
can
*ask* users to configure an outlook rule to do this, but that is all you
can do.
With that said, you realistically are trying to tackle the problem the
wrong way. If you want webmail, why not use OWA?
-Cliff
"TxLonghornRedRaider" <ppandm...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:a21b93a8-dd3c-4e29-b360-ee8f72d3a555@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
All, I know this issues has been addressed in the past but for the
life of me (and my poor eyes from reading/doing, reading/doing) I
cannot implement the solution.
This seem real simple: Use SBS 2003 exchange and have sent messages
appear at the internal client's Outlook 2003 and also have the same
message sent to the external ISP pop mail server. Presently exchange
mail does not get forwarded to the ISP mail server. Thus all internal
exchange mail is not seen by the off -ite user logging into the
webmail.
How can Exchange be set (or any other app/hardware/firewalls settings)
to allow internal exchange mail to also show up on the ISP POP mail
server?
As you might see from the write up most of this is new to me, but
after 2 weeks of reading, changing, changing, reading, changing,
changing, etc. I have learned a lot about relays, policies, f&reverse
lookup and I am ready to learn more with some additional help.
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Details:
ISP is hosting web and mail
Exch has the latest updates. Exchange system ver: 6.5.7638.1
Exch BPA shows 2 warnings: 1) Certificate principal mismatch 2) Smart
host is set.
Not using pop3 connector since testing showed downloading removes all
mail from the ISP mail server.
Emails work fine to us...@xxxxxxxxx or us...@xxxxxxxxxxxx not set up
in exchange
Emails thru Outlook pop account works fine. Outlook client has both
exchange account and pop account.
CEICW: email held at isp..... signal to: Send signal to:
mail.theispserver.net
CEICW: smarthost set to ISP mailserver mail.theispserver.net also
tried DNS
CEICW: domain set to mydomain.org
SMTP VS properties: unresolved recipients to: mail.theispserver.net
AD User setup: email: (same as ISP) us...@xxxxxxxxxxxx, logon name:
us...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Recipient Default Policy properties: defaults.... SMTP @mydomain.org
is primary with Exch Org resp for mail delivery
other rule is smtp @mydomain.local with Exch Org resp for mail
delivery
IPConfig/all and iireset /status
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig/all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : server1
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : mydomain.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : mydomain.local
Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit
Ethernet #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-09-FF-8A-40
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.100
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.100
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>iisreset /status
Status for World Wide Web Publishing Service ( W3SVC ) : Running
Status for Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) ( SMTPSVC ) : Running
Status for Microsoft Exchange Routing Engine ( RESvc ) : Running
Status for Microsoft Exchange POP3 ( POP3Svc ) : Stopped
Status for Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) ( NntpSvc ) : Stopped
Status for Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 ( IMAP4Svc ) : Running
Status for HTTP SSL ( HTTPFilter ) : Running
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I thought a solution was here (link below from 2004) but implementing
item2 solution did not fix either.
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs/br....
Item 2 describes what's happening.
1) When you try to send an email from your domain to one of those
addresses
you get back an NDR from the SBS saying that the mailbox doesn't
exist.
2) When you try to send an email from your domain to one of those
addresses
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