Re: Advice needed, hard drive 0 is failing on a RAID1 SBS2003 server, any tips welcome because I've not had to replace a HDD like this before.

one should always remember that you get what you pay for.
If you don't get the right ups..designed for use with a server...you might as well not get one

Here is a comparison chart to use for your consideration
http://www.apc.com/products/runtime_for_extendedruntime.cfm?upsfamily=251


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"Derek" <123123123123@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:ODS0wzHOJHA.4280@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks for the replies guys.

There is no UPS, I will speak to the owner about spending on one.

So far no more disk error events either. Mmmm.

I will be able to get on site at a convenient time for the customer within a week and restart the server and go into the BIOS and see the state of the disks. I think a UPS should be on the cards, would be a wise long term move.

Any recommendations for a low cost simple UPS that will run a single server and possibly the small USB tape backup unit?

Thanks again.



"Les Connor" <les.connor@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23P76bUUNJHA.5060@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I agree, and I've seen that motherboard/raid and don't like it ;-/. But, the drive diagnostics should indicate whether there's a problem with the physical disk or not, and we can move on from that point?

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"Roveer" <roveer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:ac7a563e-b609-4d26-a3ac-c77706643483@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Oct 23, 2:44 pm, "Les Connor" <les.con...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You should be able to run diagnostics on the physical drive from the raid
bios.

It's probably quite legit, and needs your attention.

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____________________________"Derek" <123123123...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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> Dear Group,

> Please can you guys help me again?

> Summary:
> RAID1 mirror with 2 hard drives, 1 is giving error messages in the > System
> Event Logs. The server has also restarted unexpectedly, and these hard
> drive errors are only showing up a single time after the restart. It > has
> restarted unexpectedly twice. I'm just wondering does this mean > something
> else is failing, or is it the hard drive?

> I've looked in the the other Event Logs and I can't see anything else > that
> looks like a clue to where the problem is. The only problem I can see > is
> the Disk Error.

> My thoughts on a solution:
> 1 - CHKDSK - run this, see if it throws up any corrupted files, this > might
> provide more weight to the "hard drive failing" case. If it comes back
> clean then I might leave the server running for another week and see > if I
> get any more Disk Errors in Event Logs.

> 2 - Replace the failing hard drive. Use the motherboard BIOS RAID > rebuild
> utility to rebuild the RAID1 array and see if the server is ok. If I > have
> any problems with this then I'm prepared to do the MS restore method > of
> partial clean installation and restore from backup method.

> 3 - Do you guys have a solution?

> I will include extra info below that might help, inc log files.

> Other Info:
> Windows updates are all up to date.

> Best Practice Analyzer comes back good.

> Anti Virus has not reported any problems on any of the 5 work > stations.

> Health Monitor - Everythig is green ticks, looks good.

> ********** Log: **********

> Event Type: Warning
> Event Source: Disk
> Event Category: None
> Event ID: 52
> Date: 22/10/2008
> Time: 22:26:23
> User: N/A
> Computer: SBS2003BG
> Description:
> The driver has detected that device \Device\Harddisk0\DR0 has > predicted
> that it will fail. Immediately back up your data and replace your hard
> disk drive. A failure may be imminent.

> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> Data:
> 0000: 0e 00 03 00 01 00 5e 00 ......^.
> 0008: 00 00 00 00 34 00 04 80 ....4..?
> 0010: 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .......
> 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 11 2d 00 ......-.
> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
> 0028: 00 00 00 ..

> ------------------
> Event Type: Warning
> Event Source: Disk
> Event Category: None
> Event ID: 52
> Date: 21/10/2008
> Time: 23:08:58
> User: N/A
> Computer: SBS2003BG
> Description:
> The driver has detected that device \Device\Harddisk0\DR0 has > predicted
> that it will fail. Immediately back up your data and replace your hard
> disk drive. A failure may be imminent.

> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> Data:
> 0000: 0e 00 03 00 01 00 5e 00 ......^.
> 0008: 00 00 00 00 34 00 04 80 ....4..?
> 0010: 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .......
> 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 11 2d 00 ......-.
> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
> 0028: 00 00 00 ..

> ********** End of Log: **********

> Do you think this means that hard drive 0 is about to fail? Seems like > a
> dumb question, but maybe the log file event is being triggered by > whatever
> caused the restart?

> Maybe the disk error can cause the restart?

> It's a server I look after for a friend, and it's the only I have
> experience of apart from my own SBS2003 home server I use for > learning.
> The friend's server does a backup onto a tape drive every night, this
> includes enough that I believe a restore could be done successfully,
> although I have not tried this.

> Hardware info:
> ASUS K8N-DL motherboard, onboard raid.
> Pair of Maxtor PATA hard drives in RAID1.
> Dual core cpu.
> USB External HP DAT24 tape drive, with OBDR (One Button Disaster > Recovery
> feature).

> If you need any more info from me I will be delighted to provide it.

> Thanks again group.- Hide quoted text -

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Another possibility is your power supply or power source. Are you on
a UPS? Server restart could be cause by faulty power and as a result
allowing the HD to become corrupt. If the HD was failing enough to
cause the server to restart I would think there would be something
more specific about it in the log. Bad power however would just take
out the server without any entries to that affect.

Just a thought.

Roveer



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