Re: SBS 2003 sp2 low disk space

Hi Charlie:

No disagreement here. But it has long been the practice in this space to inform folks of the weird position their actions may put them in when dealing with MS. The fact is that there is very little chance that something bad will happen, but my guess is that MS doesn't want to try to support 378 different partition modifying software programs, so has elected to support none until Server 2008 where they included one they either wrote or licensed and agreed to support.

-Larry

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:uXxNHY9LJHA.456@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sorry, but that's just silly. I simply don't agree with MS on this one. Heck, even THEY don't agree with themselves, since they no provide a way to do it in Server 2008!

Now, that being said, I certainly wouldn't do this without a backup, a VERIFIED backup. But I've used both shrink/grow and clone to new drive more than once, without issues or problems.

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Charlie.
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"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" <lstruckmeyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:eyV5bV6LJHA.5232@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
There are some utilities that allow for expanding the c partition and decreasing the second (D) partition, but MS will not support you if you have problems with the partitions later. Shadow Protect as a paid utility, gparted as an open source.

The only MS supported method is to remove the old drives, install the new drives, install SBS CD1, add the Windows Service Pack equal to the one you had, restore from backup.

-Larry

"Corky D" <corkydillon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:ub0M4A6LJHA.4376@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks for the input. I am going in today and try and move some folders as a
tempoary fix. In the long run the growing of the hard drive intrigues me. I
thought that windows had issues with growth. Also if I decide to put in
larger hard drives (raid 1), could that be done smoothly? Thanks again for
your input.
"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" <lstruckmeyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message news:%23t7xXx0LJHA.5660@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi Corky:

What Jim and Charlie and Merv said, and, in addition:


Here are some additional space saving/making tips accumulated from this
newsgroup.

NOTE: When moving folders, especially your Exchange data base, revisit
the
exclusions in your Anti Virus program. It is "critical" that these not be
scanned by your real time scanner.

Moving Data Folders for Windows Small Business Server 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sbs/2003/maintain/movedata.mspx

How to move Exchange databases and logs in Exchange Server 2003
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/821915>

How to Move Small Business Server 2000 Company and Users Shared Folders
<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;329640>

How to Move the Client Programs Folder to Another Location in Windows
Small
Business Server 2003
<http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;830254>

How to Move the Windows Default Paging File and Print Spooler to a
Different
Hard Disk
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/314105

NOTE: Remember that moving the default paging file will prevent Windows
from
creating a .dmp file for analysis should your system hit a critical error
and "blue screen".

Also:
Look at where the ISA logs are kept if you have SBS Premium.

You can move the C:\windows\uninstall$ folders off your systemroot, but
you
may want to keep them in case you have to move them back to uninstall
something in the future. I have only ever had to to this once, and it was
not an SBS.

Remove any folders or files under the c:\documents and settings\user
name\local settings\temp folders.

If Monitoring is enabled it can create a file that could be large. Run
through the wizard again to flush out the gooey stuff..

Delete logs older than "date of your choice" from the system32 folder.
Likewise the logs and reports from the ISA folder.

Search for and delete old dmp files.

You can move the page file to another partition. The only downside is that
if you get a "blue screen" you will not get a full memory dump, and since
only MS can read them anyway, I don't see that it matters much.

You can delete files older than a few (days/weeks/months) under
C:\Windows\System32\Logfiles to purge old log files.

Verify that your AV program is not accumulating the old pattern files in
its
download folder. Some of these files can be quite large.

You may gain some usable space and increase system performance in Windows
Server 2003 by moving the printer spool files to a different drive than
the
one that holds the operating system. Note that this should be a different
spindle, but a different partition will help the OS a bit also.

By default, Windows Server 2003 places the printer spool folder at
%systemroot%\System32\Spool\Printers. However, you can potentially
increase
system performance by moving the printer spool files to a different drive
than the one that holds the operating system.

Computers frequently access system files, so moving the printer files to a
different location allows faster access to those files. The drive won't
have
to try to service requests simultaneously.

To change the location for the printer spooler files, follow these steps:
1. Go to Start | Printers And Faxes.
2. From the File menu, select Server Properties.
3. On the Advanced tab, enter the location where you would like to spool
print jobs. If the location doesn't exist, this process will create it for
you. Make sure the new location has sufficient disk space to handle large
print jobs.
4. Stop and restart the printer spooler service, or reboot the server.

WSUS is also a big space hog. If you want to move the WSUS data, download
the following document and read the part about relocating
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=E26BCDB4-EF0B-4399-8A71-9B3B00C4F4CD&displaylang=en

You can move the contents of the Installer folder. This is a hidden
system folder that contains all the installation packages for applications
and patches installed on the server. In the event you need to remove or
modify a patch/application, you can temporarily copy the specific
folder back to the C:\ drive into the folder from whence it came. I would
give the new location the same folder tree as the original so I would know
where to copy back.


"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OAad2WyLJHA.456@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
What Jim and Charlie said... (it can be done)

Moving Data Folders for Windows Small Business Server 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=a1d0af69-1287-4225-bd8b-59c89f44984b&displaylang=en

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================

"Corky D" <corkydillon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:u%23dzqAxLJHA.4536@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
SBS 2003 sp2 low disk space drive c:! We have 485 mb left and I cant
keep deleting any more stuff. We just got too big. We have a raid 1 with
2 80 gig hard drives. Back then it seemed enough. They are partitioned c
drive 20 gigs and e drive 60gigs. We need more space on c of course. We
also have exchange up and running. No other issues. Any suggesstions
would be greatly appreciated as I see a big job ahead. Thank you.










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