Re: Need Free Antivirus for SBS 2003
- From: "Cliff Galiher" <cgaliher@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 21:18:42 -0600
Not negative (IMO) but just matter-of-fact. The situation did not fit the explanation and I was simply pointing that out and trying to reconcile the difference. I tend to be very blunt, I work on computers after all....facts and figures work better for me. Sometimes that comes across with an edge, but it is neither positive or negative in my mind. I apologize if you interpreted it as such.
With that out of the way, I stand by my previous assessment. you put out a request for help...but the problem is your request simply cannot be adequately filled. I can request help in funding my desire for a new car...but there is no obligation for people to follow through on my request. In your circumstance, the consensus is that you've laid out competing requirements: free, not trial, and for a server. You have to choose which of those you are willing to give up, pure and simple. Receiving feedback from people telling you "no" and explaining why is *not* negative feedback. It is simply a statement of fact...and to some extent an explanation of *why* the answer is no.
Finally, I should point out that if you are in the business of providing solutions to other people then you have to accept that there is a cost to doing business. It is one thing for a time-strapped IT guy to come in here asking for free software because his manager asked him get something done and he is responsible for a non-IT company's private server. But consultants, such as yourself (and myself for that matter) accept that this *is* our business. I spend a lot of money on training, books, hardware, and software. And Believe me, I understand a tight budget. But sometimes you just have to knuckle down and do it anyways. As a recommendation from one shop to another....purchase some licenses for *multiple* products so you can demo them to potential customers, use them for temporary onsite installations, and such. If you do, you'd already have a product you could use for exactly this scenario. Then, if the project goes forward, you simply include the cost of that license in your statement and buy yourself a new license. ;) Works out great.
If you reach out to the various security vendors, you can become a reseller for most of them and get NFR licenses to do exactly this anyways...for demo uses and personal use. Most companies have free or significantly reduced partner licensing agreements (think Action Pack for Microsoft) and you get added advertising exposure and resources by being a partner. It is a win-win.
-Cliff
"Brian B." <bbeckers.nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:#0$gHLjKJHA.728@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Two days ago, I put out a request for some help on finding an AV program..
I've been getting a bit of negative feedback from a few people on my search.
I do not believe that what I wrote has deserved the negative feedback that I have been receiving.
Please read my replies and reasoning below...
"Cliff Galiher" <cgaliher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:cOmdnYZwBZs5YnbVnZ2dnUVZ_tPinZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxOkay...something here is fishy:
1) Why is a trial not good enough if this is a test?
I have had negative experiences in the past with trial licenses of software. Specifically some have limited functionality, and others have numerous "reminders" to register coming up all the time, which have interfered with my use of the software.
After further thought, I am willing to use a trial IF it offers full functionality and doesn't keep poping up all the time reminding me to register or purchase the product. I want it to run like a paid version would run.
2) Furthermore, if this *is* a test then you should be testing with the same product you will use in production, otherwise your tests are worthless. Different products behave differently. 'nuf said on that topic.
I understand this. Here is what I am working on: Over a two to three month period, I will be testing some custom software on an SBS 2003 R2 system on an older server to test for certain areas of the software and how it works (or doesn't) on SBS, and how it interacts with other applications that my customer currently uses. The software has previously only been running on Server 2000, and my customer has asked me to test it on SBS.
After the test is complete, if my customer chooses to move forward with implementing the software, I will be setting up a completely new server, complete with new, full licenses of SBS, antivirus software, etc.
I have used four or five different AV server packages, and I DO KNOW that they all work differently.
I just want to install a cheap AV on the test system, where if the test goes past 90 days, a trial version won't quit on me. And I don't want to shell out a couple hundred dollars on AV s/w if after 60-90 days the tests go south and we don't continue with this project. I am a small IT Service Provider marketing to the Very Small Business segment (2-20 users), and I just don't have an extravagant budget for testing systems...yet.
3) Why free? It is one thing to trust your client PC to a free AV product.
See above clarification please.
You can nuke the client and start over. But to trust your ENTIRE NETWORK?!?!?!? You want not only a good server-class AV product, but it should be exchange aware AND be able to manage client AV as well since this *is* the hub of your organization. Don't be cheap. Just do it.
If the project moves forward after the test, we WILL be putting in a good AV...
-Cliff
"Brian B." <bbeckers.nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:eGaB#mJKJHA.1160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxI am doing testing on a couple of SBS 2003 computers, and need to install an anti-virus program.
I do not wish to shell out the money for a "server" antivirus program for these tests.
Once we install a "production" SBS server, I will then purchase a good antivirus program, but in the meanwhile, I need something free for now.
I am *not* interested in "90-day trial" versions either.
Can anyone send some suggestions this way please?
Thanks in advance for all replies,
Brian
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