Re: Fresh Install - Saving Individual Users Exchange Data
- From: "AllenM" <noreply@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:30:07 -0700
Maybe $250 isn't asking for much but do you really think a Swing Migration
is necessary for what little he has to do? We've all done swings before I'm
sure and I for one did not get it right my first time around. Wasted a day's
work. Second time around was a charm. He has 5 users, very little data and
even admits the mailboxes are small. I can have his rebuilt system up and
running, fully patched, all data transfered over and new Exchange working in
about 8 hours if not less. He wants a clean and fesh install so why would
you recommend him importing the existing AD information. Do you think he can
get this done in that time frame using a swing migration kit for which will
be his first experience? And that is if he gets it right. Is the money, time
and effort worthwhile just so that the users get their desktop settings
back? Heck it will take him at least an hour if not more just to review the
manual and procedures just to familiarize himself with the procedure. Do you
really think a company this small has a readily available virtual server to
use as a tempdc. The poster asked a few simple questions and now it has
grown into a major discussion. You guys give him answers and solutions as if
he's going in for major surgery when all it is is an outpatient visit to the
doctor..
TrickT you do what you want according to all the feedback here.
"kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
Your opinion. I don't share it. (and hardware for tempdc is anything,
really. Including a VM. )
5 users, $50 per user that is not screaming in my face (in usinson mind
you), 5 trips to workstations around the office, 5 users not having to
each reset things in their profile the way they like them.... seems like a
worthwhile effort to me.
inmho, used carefully, the non-hardware VM (tempdc) has major advantages
over real iron if snaps or undo's are considered.
I always have a sysprep'ed server VM 'at the ready'.
"AllenM" <noreply@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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It is overkill if you have to spend the $250 dollars for the kit
plus the extra hours it will take. Plus he does seem to be a small
company so extra hardware may not be available to him to use as a
temp dc. Downtime does not appear to be an issue with TrickyT. One
can do this in less than half a day over the weekend.
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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I've used swing on a two user network. I didn't think it was
overkill. But then, I hate user disruption.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
"AllenM" <noreply@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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For such a small project I think Swing Migration is a bit
overkill. No much data nothing much to reinstall except SBS. Using
exmerge will take care of mailboxes. Removing the computer
accounts from the domain first will take care of getting a clean
computer account. Obviously use the SBS connectcomputer wizard to
do so. Three most important things to remember when setting up the new
computers and accounts.
1. Domain name and server name must be the same.
2. User and Computer account names must also be indentical.
3. Email accounts must be identical.
other than that nothing much more matters. One more important thing
here. Make sure you have the CD's as well as any License or
product keys needed to install. It would be a bummer to erase
everything and then not have a license number to input.
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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You can use PSTs, but exmerge will do them all at once. I actually
prefer the "we're going to rebuild the server on Saturday, please
save any emails you really need to a local archive" approach, and
let the users save their own data. (and then I take my own copy,
cause I like belt _and_ braces.)
Understand that each user will be a NEW user. The names will be
the same, but they are NOT the same. The new computer is the same
name, but again, it's NOT the same. It will have a new SID and
the domain will be new as well. This will cause problems
somewhere along the line. Usually nothing insurmountable, but
expect them anyway. A different, and I think far superior, approach,
is to do a Swing
Migration (www.sbsmigration.com) - this preserves your data,
preserves your domain, and makes the whole process transparent to
the end users. --
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
"TrickyT" <wigwam326@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The server I currently manage has recently been receiving several
Error ID reports, some of which I have asked for help on here to
resolve.
I have now found out that a trusted employee, that has left the
company, may have been doing some tinkering on the server and
may have got out of his depth which would explain why the server
was running fine, but now has issues.
The client wants me to do a fresh reinstall of the server to
remove any issues that may have occurred and also to satisfy his
mind that no unauthorised access can occur. Even though I have
removed the user and requested all users to do a password change.
There are only 5 users in the company so there is not too much
data. I can copy the data form each users My Documents (less
than 1GB) and all of the shared company documents (less than
5GB) to an external USB hard drive.
Everything will be reinstalled using the existing data.
These are my questions.
There are not many emails for each user. Is there a file in
exchange I can copy and then reimport or should I just export
the data from Outlook into a Personal Folder File (*.pst) and
then import when finished?
As I am using the same data, all of the computers will have the
same name, I assume I will not need to reconnect them to the
network. Is there anything else I need to do before I attempt the
fresh
install? I have all of the disks required.
Regards
Trevor
--
/kj
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