Re: anti virus for sbs

So your boss can turn one penny into two miles of copper wire? Man, that's
tight...probably screeches when he farts...but I'll bet he still spends $200
a year on something frivolous when compared to the safety of the business.
Unless the guy pushes a Ford Pinto to work every day (and sleeps in it!), I
don't believe **any** business owner who cries poverty that much. I've seen
too many crybabies who later show up at the job driving VERY expensive
cars...and still whine about having to pay for IT support. I've also seen
some complainers at dinner order up $15 worth of drinks...and that's just
ONE meal.

The last time I checked, the two-user license for the corporate product was
an add-on to the minimum five-user (or higher) license. In other words, you
must already have at least a five-pack. I have used it to go from five to
seven, from five to nine (because they needed to add three), and from 25 to
29 over a period of time. When I renew, I get the current number of
licenses.

Trend Micro LOVES taking business from other companies, especially Symantec.
A "competitive upgrade" is when you have another company's product and want
to switch to Trend Micro's product, and Trend discounts their price to get
you to switch.

Gregg Hill


"M. Murphy" <MMurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Ool1$452IHA.1436@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks for the info Gregg,
I found it very helpful.
We are pretty satisfied with the workstation product at the moment, a
licensed version of AVG on the few workstations we have (3). I would
NEVER use a norton product, even on an enemy's computer, although I hear
the corporate edition is not a complete failure.

I am really liking what I am reading on the trend micro worry free
security advanced product, and after contacting trendmicro, they inform me
that resellers have a 2-license product. That is a number that I can deal
with, since we are probably deploying 1 new computer in the near future.
My boss is a real penny-pincher, he has made Lincoln cry "UNCLE" many,
many times, and he will be penny wise and pound foolish every time! I
don't really know but he probably does not buy any of the items you
listed, I don't even think he leaves the office at night!

Just one question, excuse my ignorance on this subject, but what exactly
is competitive upgrade pricing?

"Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> wrote
in message news:eXVr$h52IHA.4448@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
You may want to re-think your position, depending upon WHAT you have for
the current workstation antivirus.

Whose product is it?

How old is the product? If it is Norton Antivirus, you'd better have the
absolute latest build or you may not be protected how you think you are.
I picked up several clients, one with Norton Internet Security 2005 and
the other with 2006, and a third with Symantec Antivirus Corporate
Edition 8, and all of them had virus infections, in spite of the scans
saying they were clean. Yes, the virus **definitions** were current, but
the **build** was old and the virus infections got past all three of
them. They were all home users, and I installed Trend Micro Internet
Security (2006 or 2007 at the time) and it found all the virus infections
on all three. That is when I stopped using Symantec's product.

So you have a one-year contract for a workstation-based antivirus. OK.
Now take a look at Trend Micro Worry Free Business Security Advanced
product. It is server-based and pushes out to the workstations (if you
want to do so), it protects Exchange from viruses and spam, it has a POP3
virus and spam scanner with an Outlook antispam toolbar for POP accounts,
it comes with web browsing protection, and a 5-user license **retails**
for $396.95 for a TWO-year 5-user license (one year is $310.10 retail).
That's less than $200 per year ($16.54 per month) to protect the server
and four workstations.

You think you don't have $200 per year to spend? Tell me that you (or the
business owner) never goes out to dinner, never buys alcoholic beverages,
never smokes, never goes to Starbucks, never goes to the movies, etc, and
I **might** believe you. I firmly believe that ANYONE in business can
trim $16.54 a month from their personal budget to afford good antivirus
software.

Still too costly? If you have a reseller permit for your state, you
should have an account with Ingram or another big distributor. If you are
not a reseller, find someone who is (probably most of us), and order it
through them. We (and maybe even end users) can get competitive upgrade
pricing, which usually makes it cheaper to install the whole banana than
it is to renew your current workstation licenses.

If you buy through a large distributor, you can buy Trend in the first
five-pack, then you can buy two-pack add-ons quite inexpensively, or if
you need only six, you buy only six. I believe as long as you buy the
minimum five, then after that, you can pick how many you need.

A nice thing about server-based products is that they are easy to
monitor, easy to update all systems, and usually easy to install company
wide. Install it on the server, push it to the workstations, configure
it, and sit back and relax. As long as your license is current, you can
install newer versions. I just upgraded from Trend CSMS for SMB 3.6 to
the Worry Free Business Security Advanced 5.0 product. All you do is
upgrade the server, and it takes care of upgrading the workstations for
you.

Those four extra licenses don't have to "just sit around." They should be
installed on four workstations and provide better(?) protection than your
current solution.

Gregg Hill




"M. Murphy" <MMurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:erggcA52IHA.2524@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks for the reply, I will check them out.

I just want the server protected, we have antivirus on the workstations,
and are locked into a contract for another year.
I would love to have a proper antivirus on the server, to protect the
server and exchange, but most companies seem to force you to buy more
licenses than are really needed. We are a small company and $600+ for a
product that comes with licenses that we won't use is rather expensive.
I know the cost of a virus outbreak can also be expensive, but I just
need ONE license to be secure!!!



"Duncan McC" <hard@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:MPG.22d51234feef1ad989996@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
In article <ORA3do42IHA.4448@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
MMurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...
Anyone know of a company that sells an antivirus products for SBS that
will
not try to sell me 5 (or more) licenses at a time. I thought Avast
was
selling 1 license at a time, but their advertising is misleading, they
want
to sell 5 at a time.

I just need 1 license for the server, the workstations are locked up
in a
product already, and we don't have the money to spend on 4 extra
licenses
that will just sit around.

Seems like EVERY company wants me to buy more than 1 license. If I
needed 6
they want to sell me 10, or if I needed 21 they would try to sell me
25......

When you speak of antivirus for SBS - I think... Server based antivirus
deployment to workstations (and definition updating), and MS Exchange
protection.

It sounds like your wk.stations have anti.v on them (not server based
deployment (or anti.v definition deployment from the server either).

So you just want MS Exchange protection? I wonder if many here would
consider antivirus on the Server to be essential (certainly I think
realtime file scanning is bad on a server). Do you need to scan the
server at all? (You're going 'cheap as possible' right?)

Anyway, Sophos will sell you an individual licence, AFAIK - either or:
Antivirus and MS Exchange (PureMessage).

Only problem with Sophos is they seem to be about the most expensive
around! :( That said, I'll vote for them - great product, updates as
often as you want, fantastic support. PureMessage has a nice Admin
Console and "Dashboard" too.

--
Duncan








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