Re: SBS folder problem

Hmm, I don't think I'd be comfortable using an install CD from another OS just to fix partitions. After all, I believe we established that it was a win 2k8 CD that started this whole mess.

Instead, it is best to use a utility CD for maintenance, that doesn't even hint at installing anything. I personally use a knoppix build, but I have a spare PE CD around that I built for specific tasks as well.

-Cliff


"Aart Jansen" <aart@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:eqxRX4GtIHA.2208@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
So eventually got around to wiping the partition and reinstalling (and restoring from backup)
A couple of gotchas....
#1 deleting the partition, the next partition became the primary boot partition, when recreating a new one it never became C: drive. It would have been wise to format the existing partition.
I overcame this by again using the server 2008 boot disk as it's partition managing utility is significantly better. I created the partition making it the primary / active one.
#2 Don't miss the restore from AD safe mode, otherwise your restore will fail miserably. LOL.

"Aart Jansen" <aart@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:eUSmALaqIHA.4848@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Not really, it was a swing migration, due to the above file error theres been no full backup, the exchange and data folders have all had a few days of additional information since the swing.

I am certain that i did format, I mean I always do... Of course now I start to doubt it.

Everything functions, however I do see where you're coming from, it's probably an error I can live with short term. Only the all users folder is affected the othe folders have been removed.
"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:%230AtM3XqIHA.4788@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Agreed. Good input Cliff. Something is hosed and I'm not confident that it can be easily found or fixed.

Aart, are you in a position where you can reformat and reinstall SBS?

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"Cliff Galiher" <cgaliher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:Olq%23PyXqIHA.4112@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I hate to say it, but I think you might have to flatten the system and re-install. The presence of those folders indicates that the system did *not* get reformatted before re-install. The lack of a security tab would indicate that the system cannot read the properties of the files or folders that are missing that tab...a remnant of a conflict between OS's.

-Cliff

"Aart Jansen" <aart@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:u6HyfhWqIHA.4884@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I was having trouble initially getting SBS to install and did try a win 2008 and vista boot disk, but once I'd established the problem was my boot media, i formatted the partition before installation. I don't understand how these folders could still exist from aborted installs after a format ?
"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:ugoqDSSqIHA.3548@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hmmm... It seems that the presence of a "c:\users\all users" folder and "c:\boot" folder may indicate Vista. You're not trying to set up a dual-boot system are you Aart?

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"Aart Jansen" <aart@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:OEvyMPQqIHA.1872@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
yes all other folders show the security tab, and the volume is NTFS. Disk is basic.
"Cliff Galiher" <cgaliher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:On47O9PqIHA.3960@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Gah. I should've caught that in your first post. Sorry.

Is the security tab present on other files on the same drive? Usually a missing security tab would indicate a FAT drive instead of NTFS.

-Cliff




"Aart Jansen" <aart@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:#spnHvPqIHA.1580@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I can't "take ownership" as the security TAB does not exist for the folder. Also using subinacl from the resource kit fails with a 0x0100ADA8 error, google finds nothing for this error code.

There was also a c:\boot and a c:\program files (x86) folder which is wierd (SBS is just 32bit afterall)... but I removed them after confirming their contents weren't useful.

And c:\users folder, and this folder is some how linked to the c:\documents and settings folder, the contents alter in both simultaneously.


"Cliff Galiher" <cgaliher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23Fu6JmOqIHA.4904@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I've seen some third party apps screw up the permissions in a way that isn't usually detected.

It should be easy to fix though. The key is to use the "take ownership" button and make sure you are taking ownership of all subfolders.

Once you've taken ownership then you can reset permissions properly.

-Cliff

"Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamhanna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:#Cl4eFOqIHA.4912@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Did you do all other security updates prior to doing trying SP2?
There is a known issue with trying to install SP2 if there are a large number of other updates installed
Did you run the BPA as Merv suggested?


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"Aart Jansen" <aart@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:C83F967A-31AF-47F6-A576-04C3C33DCA06@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Yes it's set to 1, the antivirus software wasn't installed when Sp2 failed. (wasn't 'live' yet. / Using trend CSM)
Yes the regular administrator account.

I used cacls to check and set the permissions, but it still refuses to let me even view c:\documents and settings\all users.

And I can't even understand why there is a c:\users\all users, or copies of administrator/default user they all seem ok except of course "all users".

That article is for "users shared folders" which isn't where I am having issues.

"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:emjAhhNqIHA.3408@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Check this registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\SmallBusinessServer

Then look at the ServicePackNumber key. Is it set to "1"? If not, SBS 2003 SP1 may not have installed correctly.

Also, have you tried turning off your antivirus software (or other 3rd party software) on the server and then running Windows 2003 SP2?

Are you installing Windows 2003 SP2 using the Domain Administrator account?

Check permissions on the All Users folder...

Administrators: Full
Everyone: Read & Execute, List, Read
System: Ful:l
Users: Read & Execute, List, Read


Check Permissions on Users folder...

Default permissions for User Folders in Small Business Server 2003
http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2004/12/08/23026.aspx


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"Aart Jansen" <aart@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:326D43C0-908E-40B3-A035-7C0C2463C7FC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
After isntalling and running it, updating the problems it highlighted, it had 2 issues.
#1 POP mail connector (I didn't bother with this as it wont ever be used)
#2 SP2 for windows 2003 which fails to install.

The crazy magic folders of nonremoval remain intact.


"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23U4O10FqIHA.4112@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi Aart,

Trying installing and running the SBS 2003 BPA to see if it can find any problems (make sure you have the latest update installed)...

Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003 Best Practices Analyzer
http://207.46.19.190/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3874527A-DE19-49BB-800F-352F3B6F2922&displaylang=en

Small Business Server 2003 Best Practices Analyzer Updated
(Get the lastest update)
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2008/02/20/small-business-server-2003-best-practices-analyzer-updated.aspx

How to Use the Windows SBS 2003 BPA
http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2007/10/22/how-to-use-the-windows-sbs-2003-bpa.aspx


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"Aart Jansen" <aart@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:933FC6FB-02B6-466E-AA28-F1DEB9EC6143@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi I have the oddest problem I have ever seen, the c:\documents and settings\all users is untouchable, as is c:\users\all users

I have not changed permissions intentionally or at all.

When logged in as administrator I can't browse / move or rename the folder, also a new all users.windows folder is created. If I right click properties the folder there is no security tab.

I have run xcacls / cacls to try and veiw / change permissions on this folder, it changes but still i Can't browse it.

When I try to run windows 2003 Sp2 it fails to install as it wants to write a bunch of .bmp files to the all users\application data folder.

What should I do ?


Thanks
Aart


















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