RE: Problems with Permissions

From: Wayne Smith [mailto:waynesmith1971@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:56 AM
To: Guo-Zhen Wang (Gems Lab)
Subject: Re: Follow Up For Microsoft SBS Public Newsgroup Post [Problems
with Permissions] with Gary Wang (94820911)

Hello Gary,
Firstly can I say a big thank you for taking the time and trouble to try
and help me with this issue, when I posted my message to the newsgroup I
certainly didn't expect a Microsoft support technician to reply and try to
help resolve this problem, it is enormously appreciated.

I have checked the thread of the newsgroup post after reading your email
and unfortunately I cannot see your reply so I hope you won't mind me
emailing you direct.

I should explain that since I posted that message a few days ago, I have
attempted countless different scenarios to try and fix the problem, but so
far without any success, and I may have actually made things worse. As it
currently stands the SBS 2003 machine is switched off and I'm connecting
directly to the internet through my XP Professional machine -I have tried
literally everything I can think of to resolve the problem and right now I
must confess I feel completely drained and frustrated by the whole process.

With that said however, everything I have seen of Small Business Server so
far leads me to believe it is worth pursuing, I am sure that perhaps my
inexperience and lack of knowledge on certain technical issues is the real
culprit and no doubt when I do finally get everything up and running, I
will sigh a huge relief and take some important lessons learnt from the
process.

Just to give you a broad background of the problems I seem to be
experiencing, what I am trying to do is set up the SBS machine with only
one XP Pro machine connected at the moment, once I have that configured and
working correctly I intend to connect a handful of other XP Pro machines
and possibly even one or two Apple Mac computers to the network, but all of
that is for later - right now my only concern is to get the SBS and one XP
Pro machine talking to each other.

I have a broadband Internet connection through my ISP with a static IP
address, I have a Linksys Wireless-G Broadband Router, which I intend to
use for the client machines to connect to the Internet through a wireless
connection, but at the moment I am content to connect this XP Pro box to
the router with a network cable. On the back of the router, there are 4
network cable ports and one Internet port, in the SBS machine I have two
RJ-45 NIC's. And I also have a broadband modem provided by my ISP.

No matter how I try to configure everything, I seem to have a whole range
of different outcomes except the one I want. Obviously the ideal solution
would be to have the SBS machine set up and configured for network access
and Internet access, with each client machine connecting through the SBS
machine for network & Internet access, but I seem to get Internet access on
the Server and no network access, Internet access on the Server and XP Pro
box but no network access, network connectivity from the Server to the XP
Pro box but not the other way around ... and just about anything else you
could imagine except what I really want.

Although I maybe wrong in my assumptions, I feel sure the problem lies
either somewhere with the way I have the Router connected and configured or
the way I have assigned IP addresses to the network cards and perhaps I
have included too much information below, but I would much rather you know
how I have everything configured from the start, and to spend a
considerable time checking things only to find I have made a simple mistake
with part of my configuration later that I failed to mention from the
beginning.

The network is currently configured as follows:

Internet Connection
Broadband Modem provided by ISP with one Static IP Address
- 1 RJ45 Cable from the Modem to the 'Internet' port on the Linksys Router
- 2 RJ45 Cables from the Linksys Router to 2 NIC's on the SBS Box
- 1 RJ45 Cable from the Linksys Router to 1 XP Pro Box

The two NIC's on the SBS Box are labeled as follows:
- Server Local Area Connection
- Network Connection
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The 'Server Local Area Connection' has been configured manually with the
following IP Address:
- IP Address: 192.168.71.99
- Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
- Default Gateway:
- Preferred DNS Server: 192.168.71.99
- Alternate DNS Server:

The 'Network Connection' has been configured manually with the following IP
Address:
- IP Address: 192.168.71.101
- Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
- Default Gateway: 192.168.71.1
- Preferred DNS Server: 192.168.71.99
- Alternate DNS Server:
============================================================================
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The 'Local Area Connection' on the Windows XP Professional machine has been
manually configured with the following IP Address:
- IP Address: 192.168.71.103
- Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
- Default Gateway: 86.21.x.x (full static IP not shown for security reasons)
- Preferred DNS Server: 194.168.4.100 (preferred DNS provided by ISP)
- Alternate DNS Server: 194.168.8.100 (alternate DNS provided by ISP)
============================================================================
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The Linksys Wireless-G Broadband Router has been configured as follows:
- Local IP Address: 192.168.71.1
- Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
- Gateway: 0.0.0.0
- Local DNS: 0.0.0.0

- DHCP: Enabled
- Starting IP Address: 192.168.71.100
- Maximum Number of DHCP Users: 50
- Current Lease Time: 1440 minutes
- Static DNS 1: 0.0.0.0
- Static DNS 2: 0.0.0.0
- Static DNS 3: 0.0.0.0
- WINS: 0.0.0.0

Security:
- Firewall Protection: Disabled
- Block Anonymous Internet Requests: No

VPN:
- IPSec Passthrough: Enabled
- PPTP Passthrough: Enabled
- L2TP Passthrough: Enabled

Port Range Forward:
Application Start End Protocol IP Address Enabled
Exchange..........25 25 TCP 192.168.71.101 Yes
Web Server.......80 80 TCP 192.168.71.101 Yes
SSL.................443 443 TCP 192.168.71.101 Yes
SharePoint........444 444 TCP 192.168.71.101 Yes
RemoteWeb.......4125 4125 TCP 192.168.71.101 Yes
VPN.................1723 1723 TCP 192.168.71.101 Yes
TS...................3389 3389 TCP 192.168.71.101 Yes
FTP.................21 21 TCP 192.168.71.101 Yes
File Sharing......135 139 UDP 192.168.71.101 Yes
File Sharing......135 139 TCP 192.168.71.101 Yes
File Sharing......445 445 TCP 192.168.71.101 Yes
File Sharing......445 445 UDP 192.168.71.101 Yes

Management:
- Remote Management: Enabled
- Management Port: 8080
- Use https: Yes

- AP Watchdog: Disabled

- Boot WAN: Off

- Cron: Disabled

- Dhcpd: Enabled
- Used Domain: WAN
- LAN Domain:

- DNS Masq: Disabled
- Local DNS: Disabled

- HTTPS: Enabled

- Loopback: Enabled

- 802.1x: Disabled

- NTP Client: Disabled

- PPTP Server: Disabled

- Resetbuttond: Enabled

- Routing: Enabled

- SNMP: Disabled

- SSHD: Disabled

- Syslod: Disabled

- Telnet: Disabled

- UPnP: Enabled
============================================================================
=======

I have proceeded through the Internet & Email connection wizard in SBS 2003
countless times to change different IP Addresses and other configurable
options, simply to see if anything else made a noticeable difference but
the way I have everything configured at the moment is giving me Internet
access on both the SBS Box and the XP Pro box but no network connectivity,
although I can log on to the XP machine using the credentials that I
created on the SBS Box but I cannot exchange files between the two machines
or browse either computer in My Network Places.

If anything looks immediately obvious to you, that perhaps I have
overlooked, I would of course be incredibly grateful for your feedback. I
have even tried plugging the RJ45 cable from the Broadband modem into one
of the network ports on the Linksys Router and then one RJ45 cable from the
'Network Connection' NIC on the Server to the 'Internet' port on the
Linksys Router, more out of curiosity than anything else simply to see if
it solved my problem, but all that seems to do is give me an IP Address
conflict when I configure the IP Address to the static IP Address as
provided by my ISP.

I realize this may possibly seem very complicated to someone who isn't
sitting in front of my network, and to be fair it's even more complicated
to someone who is, but any help, suggestions or pointers would be greatly
appreciated.

Kind Regards,
Wayne Smith


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| From: v-gzwang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Guozhen Wang[MSFT])
| Organization: Microsoft
| Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 11:48:54 GMT
| Subject: RE: Problems with Permissions
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| Hello Wayne,
|
| Thank you for your post and thanks for Cliff's great inputs.
|
| My name is Gary Wang, and it is my pleasure to work with you on this
issue!
|
| Please allow me to confirm that my understandings are correct. As I
| understand it, the issue is:
|
| You cannot create network share place from SBS server to XP client even
you
| had delegate full control permission to the share folder.
|
| If I have misunderstood your concerns please feel free to let me know.
|
| Suggestion :
| ==============
| I would like to suggest that you check the following:
|
| 1. Check whether you can ping the XP client's computer name and IP
address
| from SBS server.
|
| 2. Please check the shared permission and NTFS permission of the shared
| folder on XP, to ensure your user account have full permission of the
| folder.
|
| 3. Please ensure you join the client computer to SBS domain thru
| connectcomputer wizard. We recommend that the client connect to
| http://SBSServername/connectcomputer and following the wizard to join SBS
| domain.
|
| 4. Please try to create a new shared folder on XP and then test this
issue.
|
| 5. If there are any firewall/anti-virus software on the XP client, please
| disable it temporarily as a test. Note that please perform a full scan to
| make sure your system is clean before disable them.
|
| 6. Make sure File and Printing Share protocol is enabled on the SBS
server.
| Please go to Control Panel - Network Connections, double click your NIC
and
| choose Properties. Make sure the "File and Printing Sharing for Microsoft
| Network" is checked.
|
|
| If we cannot resolve the issue after we perform the above steps, please
| help me collect some information for further investigation:
|
| Information Need
| ==============
| 1. Please run the command: ipconfig /all on both server and client, then
| post the result back here.
| 2. Please capture a screenshot of the exact symptom and send to me at
| v-gzwang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| 3. Check event viewer for related error message. If there any, please
save
| as *.evt file and send to me
| 4. Does this issue happen on every XP client?
|
| I look forward to your reply. Also, if you have any questions or
concerns,
| please do not hesitate to let me know. I am happy to help. :-)
|
| Thank you for your time and cooperation!
|
| Best regards,
|
| Gary Wang(MSFT)
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| | From: "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| | Subject: Problems with Permissions
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| | Applies to: Small Business Server 2003 & Windows XP Professional w/SP3
| | Hi everyone,
| | I wonder if someone may be able to help with a Permissions issue I
have,
| I've got one SBS2003 machine up and running, and to the best of my
ability
| configured correctly, I've added a Windows XP Pro machine to the
computers
| and created an account for myself with Administrator privileges, on both
| the SBS and XP machine I have shared certain folders and included my
| account in the Security with full permissions, from the XP box if I go to
| My Network Places I can create a new network place using those shared
| folders from the SBS box, but if I try to do the same from the SBS box by
| creating a network place to a shared folder on the XP machine, I get an
| error message saying the network path cannot be found or I don't have
| permission to access it.
| | I'm at a loss as to what I may be doing wrong because clearly my user
| account is configured in Active Directory as I can log on to the Windows
XP
| machine using the credentials that I created in AD. Just for clarity the
| SBS box is also a Domain Controller if that makes any difference.
| | Can anyone see something obvious that I may be overlooking?
| | Any help, pointers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
| | Kind Regards,
| | Wayne
| |
|
|

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