Re: disk has low idle time?
- From: rossk <rkovelman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 05:58:25 -0800 (PST)
Its not a KB article but when I ran the SBS best practice it also
notified me of the PF being small. This is what it states in the
menu:
The space for the paging file (3840) is larger than the physical
memory (3327). This may affect the system performance. It is
recommended to have paging file size equal to the physical memory.
If you look up more information it opens the ExBPA help me file and :
To prevent page file fragmentation, we recommend that you set the
paging file size initial and maximum values to be the same value. If
you reduce the size of either the initial or maximum page file
settings, you must restart your computer to see the effects of those
changes. Increases typically do not require a restart.
The log files I cleaned (not deleted) were old IIS logs since the
server was brought to life and some old CA logs that took up a ton of
space.
Need any more information?
~Ross
On Feb 1, 2:36 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I disagree with both 'musts' and would like to be pointed to the KB article
you interpret as suggesting such.
You have more work ahead of you, identifying what is leaving all those temp
files behind, controlling it somehow.
Curious. Was it a large number of temp files in the base %temp% directory or
was it files in folders? I ask because YES, it is a known thing, the more
files in a folder the more processing it takes to create new or manipulate
existing. This isn't normally a problem until you hit a folder with
GAZILLION files in it, even a gazillion 0 bit/byte files can be problematic.
NTFS is not quite 'a database' but it has similarities to them (as does any
file system really). The bigger your INDEXES the more processing required.
More processing can lead to your 'low idle time'.
I think most of the PF discussion was a red herring, I had to point out some
misunderstandings is all.
"rossk" <rkovel...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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To fix the issue I have found:
Min and Max page file MUST be the same and MUST be equal to the amount
of memory in the server. This was according to a KB article.
I also found and moved data off the C:\ drive that was mostly temp
folders so now out of a 30GB HD I have 15GB free or 50%.
Thanks for the help those have given
On Jan 23, 5:37 pm, rossk <rkovel...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am confused as to what that has to do with PF? Or how is Page file
and disk size tied into low idle time?
On Jan 23, 3:02 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
myPeople have suggested to me that they see less impact than I suggest but
'rule' is:
NTFS works well at 40% free space.
NTFS performance is effected by the time you get to 30% free space.
NTFS performance is significantly effected at 20% free space.
At 10% free space NTFS is crippled.
gettingBoth disks have (only slightly) less then 20% free space and you are
'low idle time'.
I'll leave out my conclusion, it's not relevent either.
"rossk" <rkovel...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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There is 2 internal disks and a raid. I will not talk about the raid
as that will be moved soon. C: drive is 34GB and has 6.75GB free
(doesnt change). E: is 203GB and has 36.9GB free (does change since
exchange store is on there)
Is this what you were looking for?
Thanks
On Jan 19, 3:04 am, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
bytes to kilobytes 1024
KB to MB *1024
MB to GB *1024
3 of them *3
plus 12MB to allow a dump file, a bit.
toTheoretically, you could work out the exact byte amount and set the PF
add athis value. There would be however very little benefit in doing so,
couple of hundred MB, it's close enough.
Did you miss the bit about:
Please detail partition sizes and percentage free space.
"rossk" <rkovel...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I am confused by this:
((1024*1024*1024*3)+a bit)
Please explain. The server to be honest probably has not been
defragemented for 2 yrs min, if not more. The exchange store is on
the other drive so to defrag C: is not an issue.
On Jan 18, 10:48 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'd probably put a single paging file of 3.2GB ((1024*1024*1024*3)+a
bit)
on
the OS partition, min=max, then defrag it
PageDefrag
v2.32http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx
use.and monitor its usage. If monitoring suggests more paging file is
required,
create an additional 1GB file on your 2nd partition, and monitor
I don't think this will address your 'low idle time'. Please details
partition sizes and percentage free space.
affectedFragmentation can also cause slow access. NTFS is _much_ less
happeningby
fragmentation than other file systems but the idea that you saw this
after
some period of operation, then it went away, and is now again
lends _some_ credence to _possible_ fragmentation problems.
"rossk" <rkovel...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Just an FYI:
Drive C:
Initail size - 1920 MB
Maximum size - 3840 MB
It says recomended is 4990 MB. Ideas?
On Jan 18, 7:13 pm, rossk <rkovel...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
e:I knew there was more reasons :) In anycase I have 2 drives c: and
I will increase both correct?
wrote:On Jan 18, 5:37 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
on aalternately, there is a method of creating multiple page files
single
partitionhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740
How to overcome the 4,095 MB paging file size limit in Windows..
thanI disagree with Cris on two aspects of this:
1) that your paging file 'should' be as large as stated. Cris is
referring
to a long standing 'rule of thumb', that the paging file be 1.5
times
real
RAM. Your paging file will work optimally if it is no bigger
makewhat
is
_required_.
2) is a mention rather than 'suggestion' Cris makes. I would
the
page
file on the OS partition no smaller than RAM+20MB, RAM+12 is the
minimum
for
a full 'crash dump' file.
using itOH, and while I'm here, mention /3GB. I see the OP is _not_
DCand
this is proper, he has though confused the reason. Most Exchange
systems
would benefit from the switch, SBS doesn't because it is also a
greater(and
a
lot of other things) and sacrificing 'kernel' to allow apps
performance.'user'
space _in most cases_ starves the kernel, decreasing
wrote"Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
file onin
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What SG is referring to is that there is a limit of 4Gb page
youeach
partition
So lets say that you have a C: Drive and a E: Drive
You can create a 2GB on the C: Drive and 4 GB on the E: drive if
wanted
a 6GB (2X the amount of physical memory) page file
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limit"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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going to advise the OP how to get around the 4GB paging file
wrotethen?
"Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamha...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
in
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Right click, My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Performance
With 3 GB of memory > Page file should be 4.5 to 6 GB
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Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
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"rossk" <rkovel...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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m...
also3 GB is the total, I do NOT have the 3GB switch becuase I am
knwosrunning exchange or at least thats why I think so. The system
taking up3
GB so I do not get the warning of "there is an application
again?too much memory". Page file I forgot? Where do I check that
Thanks!
pageOn Jan 16, 11:13 pm, "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]"
<crisnospamha...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
And how much RAM in your system and what is the size of your
file?
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Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
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Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
"Russ (SBITS.Biz)" <supp...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
From my Experience you shouldn't be getting these.
areWhat kind of Drives are they?
and how many users are on your Domain and what kind of access
they
doing?
Russ
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Russell Grover
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist.
MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS)
North America Remote SBS2003 Support -http://www.SBITS.Biz
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"rossk" <rkovel...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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m...
I get this message once and awhile should i be concerened
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