Re: addressed before : exchange temp tables. server reboot, old mails sent.

Hello Pedro,

Thank you for your update.

I hope everything is going well.

If the Exchange still send out many old NDRs after you reboot your
Exchange, I think your Exchange may be the target of a reverse non-delivery
report (NDR) attack. Please try to perform the steps in the following KB to
see if it help:

Exchange queues fill with many non-delivery reports from the postmaster
account in Small Business Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=886208

If there's anything else I can do for you, please do not hesitate to let me
know.

Thank you and have a nice day,

Best regards,

Terence Liu(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

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| From: "Pedro M. Leite" <pleite@xxxxxxxxx>
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| Subject: Re: addressed before : exchange temp tables. server reboot, old
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| Hi !!
| follow up
|
| yesterday, i have excluded exchange folders from file level anti virus
| scanning.
| today, i had a ndr stuck in queue to a non existant domain.
| deleted temp tables and after restarting, the same ndr was there.
| i will reboot and see what happens.
|
| thank you
|
| PLeite
| -------------------------------------------------------
| "Terence Liu [MSFT]" <v-terliu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escreveu na mensagem
| news:LayyCGZXIHA.360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > Hello Pedro,
| >
| > Thank you for your reply.
| >
| > I hope everything is going well.
| >
| > If there's anything else I can do for you, please do not hesitate to let
| me
| > know.
| >
| > Thank you and have a nice day,
| >
| > Best regards,
| >
| > Terence Liu(MSFT)
| >
| > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >
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| > | From: "Pedro M. Leite" <pleite@xxxxxxxxx>
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| > | Subject: Re: addressed before : exchange temp tables. server reboot,
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| > mails sent.
| > | Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:37:55 -0000
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| > |
| > | hi
| > |
| > | good morning.
| > |
| > | i am reading your input and will post further developments.
| > |
| > | thank you
| > | PLeite
| > | ----------------------------------------
| > | "Terence Liu [MSFT]" <v-terliu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escreveu na
| mensagem
| > | news:12A8u6KXIHA.4200@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > Hello Pedro,
| > | >
| > | > Thank you for posting here. Let's also thank Larry and James for the
| > | input.
| > | >
| > | > According to the message, I understand that your Exchange 2003
server
| > | > resends old mails after a reboot. Is this correct?
| > | >
| > | > Based on my research, the issue is most likely caused by message
stuck
| > in
| > | > Temp Folder. It is a known issue in Exchange Server. Let me explain
in
| > | > details.
| > | >
| > | > The Exchange Temp tables are special-purpose subfolders of the SMTP
| > | > service's logon to the Message Database. They are used for the
| creation
| > of
| > | > the bifurcated messages in the message categorizer, and as temporary
| > | > storage for SendQ-submitted mail messages if SMTP cannot keep up
with
| > the
| > | > processing of SendQ mail. When the SMTP service logs in to the
Message
| > | > Database, it forces an enumeration and submission of mail in the
temp
| > | > tables. So when we restart the Exchange server or restart the SMTP
| > | service,
| > | > the mails in the temp tables will be resent.
| > | >
| > | > Old messages may be found in the temp tables for one of the
following
| > | > reasons:
| > | >
| > | > - An error occurs each time the particular message is processed. For
| > | > example, the Information Store may return a retry-able error when an
| > | > attempt is made to relay the message, or the connector to the
message
| > | > destination is unavailable.
| > | >
| > | > - The message was categorized to go to a specific Message Database
for
| > | > local delivery, but the Message Database is no longer available.
| > | >
| > | > - An unknown or unexpected behavior caused by message damage.
| > | >
| > | > Suggestion 1: At this time, I would suggest that we clear Temp
Folder,
| > and
| > | > then monitor this issue for some time to check if it reoccur.
| > | >
| > | > Note Currently, the only version of the Mfcmapi.exe utility that is
| > | > approved for use is version 5.0.18.1978. Delete any earlier versions
| of
| > | > this utility. Earlier versions of this utility may cause performance
| > | issues
| > | > in Exchange 2000 Server and in Exchange Server 2003.
| > | >
| > | > Note There is one TempTable for each SMTP virtual server. For
example,
| > | > TempTable#1 corresponds to SMTP virtual server 1, and TempTable#2
| > | > corresponds to SMTP virtual server 2. In the following methods,
change
| > the
| > | > TempTables according to the Exchange Server configuration.
| > | >
| > | > When you delete an SMTP virtual server, the TempTable that is
| associated
| > | > with the SMTP virtual server is not deleted. Additionally, the
| contents
| > of
| > | > the associated TempTable are not deleted. If you add and then remove
| an
| > | > SMTP virtual server, you must manually delete the TempTable that is
| > | > associated with the SMTP virtual server.
| > | >
| > | > Warning If you use the Mfcmapi.exe utility incorrectly, serious
| problems
| > | > may occur that may require that you reinstall Microsoft Exchange
| Server.
| > | > Serious problems may also occur that require that you restore
| Microsoft
| > | > Exchange Server. Microsoft cannot guarantee that problems that
result
| > from
| > | > using the Mfcmapi.exe utility incorrectly can be resolved. Use the
| > | > Mfcmapi.exe utility at your own risk.
| > | >
| > | > Warning If you delete the SMTP TempTables, all incoming and outgoing
| > | > messages are cleared from the TempTables at the same time.
| > | >
| > | > 1. Stop the SMTP service, and then double-click Mfcmapi.exe.
| > | > The tool can be got here:
| > | >
| > |
| >
|
http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/9/f/49f2ce91-72c5-45f5-9849-401cd9b
| > | > 86d67/mfcmapi_bin.exe
| > | >
| > | > 2. Click OK to close the About Mfcmapi dialog box.
| > | > 3. Click Session, and then click Logon and Display Stores.
| > | > 4. Log on by using an Administrator account. If the MAPI profile is
| > | > unavailable, create one.
| > | > 5. Click MDB, and then click Get Mailbox Table.
| > | > 6. Confirm the server name, and then click OK.
| > | > 7. Double-click the object SMTP ( Servername GUID ) mailbox.
| > | >
| > | > Note In this step, Servername represents the name of the Exchange
| > Server.
| > | > GUID represents the GUID.
| > | >
| > | > 8. Expand Root Container, and then click TempTable# n .
| > | >
| > | > Note n represents the number that corresponds to the TempTable.
| > | >
| > | > 9. Right-click the TempTable# n object, and then click Delete
Folder.
| > | > 10. Click to select the Hard Deletion check box, and then click OK.
| > | > 11. Confirm that the TempTable folder has been deleted. To do this,
| > | follow
| > | > these steps:
| > | > a. On the Hierarchy Table menu, click Refresh View.
| > | > b. Expand Root Container. Verify that the TempTable# n folder does
| not
| > | > appear.
| > | >
| > | > 12. Quit the Mfcmapi.exe utility.
| > | > 13. Start the SMTP service. When you start this service, a new
| > TempTable
| > | > is created.
| > | >
| > | > For your reference:
| > | > How to use the Mfcmapi.exe utility to view and work with messages in
| the
| > | > SMTP TempTables in Exchange 2000 Server and in Exchange Server 2003
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=906557
| > | >
| > | > Suggestion 2: If it doesn't help, the issue can be caused by 3rd
party
| > | > antivirus applications or message queued in the SMTP virtual server.
| > | Please
| > | > also try the following steps to check the effect.
| > | >
| > | > Based on my knowledge, the possible cause for the behavior is
Antispam
| > and
| > | > Antivirus applications installed on your Exchange Server, which keep
| > | > running on the TCP port 25 originally used by Exchange SMTP Virtual
| > | Server.
| > | > When mail is sent through the port, this kind of applications queue
| the
| > | > messages for scanning and send the mail after certain interval. So
| > please
| > | > temporarily disable/uninstall third party applications installed on
| this
| > | > Exchange Server and then verify the issue. If the issue persists,
you
| > can
| > | > continue with next step.
| > | >
| > | > For your reference:
| > | > Overview of Exchange Server 2003 and antivirus software
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=823166
| > | >
| > | > Suggestion 3: The behavior may also be caused when the message is
| queued
| > | in
| > | > SMTP Virtual Server. It is expected that SMTP Virtual Server tries
to
| > | > resend unsuccessfully sent mails after reboot. Please perform the
| > | following
| > | > tests to verify whether the issue is related to SMTP Virtual Server.
| > | >
| > | > 1. Before reboot Exchange Server, stop SMTP Virtual Server.
| > | > 2. Go to C:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mailroot\vsi 1 and rename the
Queue
| > | > folder as Queue.old
| > | > 3. Restart the SMTP Virtual Server to refresh queues in Exchange
| System
| > | > Manager.
| > | > 4. Then you can restart Exchange Server to verify whether the mails
| are
| > | > resent after reboot.
| > | >
| > | > Hope this helps.
| > | >
| > | > If there is any update, please feel free to get in touch!
| > | >
| > | > Thanks and have a nice day!
| > | >
| > | > Best regards,
| > | >
| > | > Terence Liu(MSFT)
| > | >
| > | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | >
| > | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > | >
| > | > =====================================================
| > | > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
| issues
| > | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
| > corresponding
| > | > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
| > manner.
| > | > You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > | > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
| > | >
| > | > When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you
| check
| > | the
| > | > "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when
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| > are
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| > | > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from
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| > | > issue.
| > | >
| > | > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although
| we
| > | > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
| > | > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean.
In
| > | doing
| > | > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| > | >
| > | > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
| > Please
| > | > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
numbers.
| > | >
| > | > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| > | > =====================================================
| > | >
| > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| > | rights.
| > | >
| > | > --------------------
| > | > | From: "Pedro M. Leite" <pleite@xxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | References: <#OhBNdfWIHA.1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > <39fa405a-8e7d-4d5e-8801-68a9a6b3d03b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | Subject: Re: addressed before : exchange temp tables. server
reboot,
| > old
| > | > mails sent.
| > | > | Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:38:41 -0000
| > | > | Lines: 41
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| > | > | Path:
| TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
| > | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.pt.exchange:487
| > | > microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:87866
| > | > microsoft.public.exchange.admin:58087
| > | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > | > |
| > | > | hi, thanks.
| > | > | i found that article, and got through to mfcmapi application.
| > | > | i thank you for your concern on this matter, but my immediate
issue
| is
| > | how
| > | > | does this happens, so that i can avoid it.
| > | > | anti virus scanning seems to be a good candidate.
| > | > |
| > | > | thank you
| > | > | PLeite
| > | > | ------------------------
| > | > | "Jamestechman" <jamestechman@xxxxxxxxx> escreveu na mensagem
| > | > |
| > |
| news:39fa405a-8e7d-4d5e-8801-68a9a6b3d03b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | Article shows how; however it will whack everything that is
currenly
| > | > | in there so if you decide to delete; do it during non peak hrs.
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | Have You Checked Your SMTP Mailbox Temporary Tables Lately?
| > | > |
| > | >
| > |
| >
|
http://www.windowsitpro.com/MicrosoftExchangeOutlook/Article/ArticleID/50422
| > | > /50422.html
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | James Chong (MVP)
| > | > | MCSE | M+, S+, MCTS, Security+
| > | > | msexchangetips.blogspot.com
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | On Jan 18, 12:28 pm, "Pedro M. Leite" <ple...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
| > | > | > hi
| > | > | >
| > | > | > as the title says, our exchange, SBS 2k3, exchange 2k3, is
sending
| > old
| > | > | > mails, due ( according to my research ) to the existance of old
| > | records
| > | > on
| > | > | > the exchange temp tables. it is possible to delete those temp
| tables
| > | > | > records, using mscMAPI but i need to eliminate this.
| > | > | > every month, on the update cycle and reboot, bang, old mails
sent.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > has anyone has a solution ??
| > | > | >
| > | > | > thank you
| > | > | > Pedro Leite from Portugal
| > | > | > ---------------------------------------
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > |
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| >
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