Re: addressed before : exchange temp tables. server reboot, old mails sent.

Hi !!
follow up

yesterday, i have excluded exchange folders from file level anti virus
scanning.
today, i had a ndr stuck in queue to a non existant domain.
deleted temp tables and after restarting, the same ndr was there.
i will reboot and see what happens.

thank you

PLeite
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"Terence Liu [MSFT]" <v-terliu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escreveu na mensagem
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Hello Pedro,

Thank you for your reply.

I hope everything is going well.

If there's anything else I can do for you, please do not hesitate to let
me
know.

Thank you and have a nice day,

Best regards,

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| From: "Pedro M. Leite" <pleite@xxxxxxxxx>
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| Subject: Re: addressed before : exchange temp tables. server reboot, old
mails sent.
| Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:37:55 -0000
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| hi
|
| good morning.
|
| i am reading your input and will post further developments.
|
| thank you
| PLeite
| ----------------------------------------
| "Terence Liu [MSFT]" <v-terliu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escreveu na
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| news:12A8u6KXIHA.4200@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > Hello Pedro,
| >
| > Thank you for posting here. Let's also thank Larry and James for the
| input.
| >
| > According to the message, I understand that your Exchange 2003 server
| > resends old mails after a reboot. Is this correct?
| >
| > Based on my research, the issue is most likely caused by message stuck
in
| > Temp Folder. It is a known issue in Exchange Server. Let me explain in
| > details.
| >
| > The Exchange Temp tables are special-purpose subfolders of the SMTP
| > service's logon to the Message Database. They are used for the
creation
of
| > the bifurcated messages in the message categorizer, and as temporary
| > storage for SendQ-submitted mail messages if SMTP cannot keep up with
the
| > processing of SendQ mail. When the SMTP service logs in to the Message
| > Database, it forces an enumeration and submission of mail in the temp
| > tables. So when we restart the Exchange server or restart the SMTP
| service,
| > the mails in the temp tables will be resent.
| >
| > Old messages may be found in the temp tables for one of the following
| > reasons:
| >
| > - An error occurs each time the particular message is processed. For
| > example, the Information Store may return a retry-able error when an
| > attempt is made to relay the message, or the connector to the message
| > destination is unavailable.
| >
| > - The message was categorized to go to a specific Message Database for
| > local delivery, but the Message Database is no longer available.
| >
| > - An unknown or unexpected behavior caused by message damage.
| >
| > Suggestion 1: At this time, I would suggest that we clear Temp Folder,
and
| > then monitor this issue for some time to check if it reoccur.
| >
| > Note Currently, the only version of the Mfcmapi.exe utility that is
| > approved for use is version 5.0.18.1978. Delete any earlier versions
of
| > this utility. Earlier versions of this utility may cause performance
| issues
| > in Exchange 2000 Server and in Exchange Server 2003.
| >
| > Note There is one TempTable for each SMTP virtual server. For example,
| > TempTable#1 corresponds to SMTP virtual server 1, and TempTable#2
| > corresponds to SMTP virtual server 2. In the following methods, change
the
| > TempTables according to the Exchange Server configuration.
| >
| > When you delete an SMTP virtual server, the TempTable that is
associated
| > with the SMTP virtual server is not deleted. Additionally, the
contents
of
| > the associated TempTable are not deleted. If you add and then remove
an
| > SMTP virtual server, you must manually delete the TempTable that is
| > associated with the SMTP virtual server.
| >
| > Warning If you use the Mfcmapi.exe utility incorrectly, serious
problems
| > may occur that may require that you reinstall Microsoft Exchange
Server.
| > Serious problems may also occur that require that you restore
Microsoft
| > Exchange Server. Microsoft cannot guarantee that problems that result
from
| > using the Mfcmapi.exe utility incorrectly can be resolved. Use the
| > Mfcmapi.exe utility at your own risk.
| >
| > Warning If you delete the SMTP TempTables, all incoming and outgoing
| > messages are cleared from the TempTables at the same time.
| >
| > 1. Stop the SMTP service, and then double-click Mfcmapi.exe.
| > The tool can be got here:
| >
|

http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/9/f/49f2ce91-72c5-45f5-9849-401cd9b
| > 86d67/mfcmapi_bin.exe
| >
| > 2. Click OK to close the About Mfcmapi dialog box.
| > 3. Click Session, and then click Logon and Display Stores.
| > 4. Log on by using an Administrator account. If the MAPI profile is
| > unavailable, create one.
| > 5. Click MDB, and then click Get Mailbox Table.
| > 6. Confirm the server name, and then click OK.
| > 7. Double-click the object SMTP ( Servername GUID ) mailbox.
| >
| > Note In this step, Servername represents the name of the Exchange
Server.
| > GUID represents the GUID.
| >
| > 8. Expand Root Container, and then click TempTable# n .
| >
| > Note n represents the number that corresponds to the TempTable.
| >
| > 9. Right-click the TempTable# n object, and then click Delete Folder.
| > 10. Click to select the Hard Deletion check box, and then click OK.
| > 11. Confirm that the TempTable folder has been deleted. To do this,
| follow
| > these steps:
| > a. On the Hierarchy Table menu, click Refresh View.
| > b. Expand Root Container. Verify that the TempTable# n folder does
not
| > appear.
| >
| > 12. Quit the Mfcmapi.exe utility.
| > 13. Start the SMTP service. When you start this service, a new
TempTable
| > is created.
| >
| > For your reference:
| > How to use the Mfcmapi.exe utility to view and work with messages in
the
| > SMTP TempTables in Exchange 2000 Server and in Exchange Server 2003
| > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=906557
| >
| > Suggestion 2: If it doesn't help, the issue can be caused by 3rd party
| > antivirus applications or message queued in the SMTP virtual server.
| Please
| > also try the following steps to check the effect.
| >
| > Based on my knowledge, the possible cause for the behavior is Antispam
and
| > Antivirus applications installed on your Exchange Server, which keep
| > running on the TCP port 25 originally used by Exchange SMTP Virtual
| Server.
| > When mail is sent through the port, this kind of applications queue
the
| > messages for scanning and send the mail after certain interval. So
please
| > temporarily disable/uninstall third party applications installed on
this
| > Exchange Server and then verify the issue. If the issue persists, you
can
| > continue with next step.
| >
| > For your reference:
| > Overview of Exchange Server 2003 and antivirus software
| > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=823166
| >
| > Suggestion 3: The behavior may also be caused when the message is
queued
| in
| > SMTP Virtual Server. It is expected that SMTP Virtual Server tries to
| > resend unsuccessfully sent mails after reboot. Please perform the
| following
| > tests to verify whether the issue is related to SMTP Virtual Server.
| >
| > 1. Before reboot Exchange Server, stop SMTP Virtual Server.
| > 2. Go to C:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\mailroot\vsi 1 and rename the Queue
| > folder as Queue.old
| > 3. Restart the SMTP Virtual Server to refresh queues in Exchange
System
| > Manager.
| > 4. Then you can restart Exchange Server to verify whether the mails
are
| > resent after reboot.
| >
| > Hope this helps.
| >
| > If there is any update, please feel free to get in touch!
| >
| > Thanks and have a nice day!
| >
| > Best regards,
| >
| > Terence Liu(MSFT)
| >
| > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >
| > =====================================================
| > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
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| > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
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| > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
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| > You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
| >
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| > "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there
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| > any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
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| > issue.
| >
| > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although
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| > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
| > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
| doing
| > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| >
| > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
Please
| > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
| >
| > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| > =====================================================
| >
| > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
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| >
| > --------------------
| > | From: "Pedro M. Leite" <pleite@xxxxxxxxx>
| > | References: <#OhBNdfWIHA.1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > <39fa405a-8e7d-4d5e-8801-68a9a6b3d03b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | Subject: Re: addressed before : exchange temp tables. server reboot,
old
| > mails sent.
| > | Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:38:41 -0000
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| > | Newsgroups:
| >
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| > | Path:
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| > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.pt.exchange:487
| > microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:87866
| > microsoft.public.exchange.admin:58087
| > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > |
| > | hi, thanks.
| > | i found that article, and got through to mfcmapi application.
| > | i thank you for your concern on this matter, but my immediate issue
is
| how
| > | does this happens, so that i can avoid it.
| > | anti virus scanning seems to be a good candidate.
| > |
| > | thank you
| > | PLeite
| > | ------------------------
| > | "Jamestechman" <jamestechman@xxxxxxxxx> escreveu na mensagem
| > |
|
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| > | Article shows how; however it will whack everything that is currenly
| > | in there so if you decide to delete; do it during non peak hrs.
| > |
| > |
| > | Have You Checked Your SMTP Mailbox Temporary Tables Lately?
| > |
| >
|

http://www.windowsitpro.com/MicrosoftExchangeOutlook/Article/ArticleID/50422
| > /50422.html
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | James Chong (MVP)
| > | MCSE | M+, S+, MCTS, Security+
| > | msexchangetips.blogspot.com
| > |
| > |
| > | On Jan 18, 12:28 pm, "Pedro M. Leite" <ple...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
| > | > hi
| > | >
| > | > as the title says, our exchange, SBS 2k3, exchange 2k3, is sending
old
| > | > mails, due ( according to my research ) to the existance of old
| records
| > on
| > | > the exchange temp tables. it is possible to delete those temp
tables
| > | > records, using mscMAPI but i need to eliminate this.
| > | > every month, on the update cycle and reboot, bang, old mails sent.
| > | >
| > | > has anyone has a solution ??
| > | >
| > | > thank you
| > | > Pedro Leite from Portugal
| > | > ---------------------------------------
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
|
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