Re: Weird Vista issue on SBS 2003

Presuming the SBS is updated with the Vista and Office compatability updates, I've seen zero issues joining Vista Business machines to the domain. Then again, I use the SBS default My Docs redirection, not a custom/manual GPO.

--
Les Connor [SBS MVP]


"ChuckT" <ChuckT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:6DDDD011-17AE-461B-A7DA-407357C9A475@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hey Susan:

I created a GPO = Desktop Copy Policy
In the policy under users windows I enabled folder redirection for
mydocuments
Filter = None
Looking at the policy in GPMC it shows:
Path \\myserver\users\%username%\My Documents
Grant User Exclusive enabled
Move contents enabled

On my Vista machine I did disable rss and autotuning

On my Vista machine I put a test folder test4 and a test document text4 into
documents. I can see it on the local machine.

I set the filter level at first to NONE did gpupdate /force and rebooted the
vista machine. Since I did not see the file and folder on the server I ran
gpresult and it said Desktop Copy Policy = Not Applied (Empty)

So I left the polcy intact and just changed the filter to POST SP2 and the
gpresult said
Desktop Copy Policy Denied (WMi filter)

So I applied the VISTA filter (the Vista machine has the WMI patch to allow
it to join the LAN with the connectcomputer wizard). Gpudate /force and
rebooted

GPresult says Desktop Copy Policy NOT APPLIED (Empty)

I am definately confused :)

Chuck



"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks" wrote:

I'm not seeing this speed delay here. Do you have the RSS adjusted off
the SBS 2003 box post sp2 install?

ChuckT wrote:
> I stand corrected. I had to reboot and it worked. Not just logging > off. I
> was able to use the START menu right away although the icons and the > menu
> item in the initial menu took about 1 minute to appear.
> Whew!
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> MS really needs to address this in a serious way.
>
> Chuck
>
> "Larry Struckmeyer" wrote:
>
>> Um, I probably have this bass-wards, as I don't have any notebooks in >> use on
>> SBS servers, but intuitively I would think that you would first enable
>> document redirection with the wiz, so that all files are stored on the
>> server when connected, and then enable sync so that a copy was >> available on
>> the nb when it was away.
>>
>> yes/no?
>>
>> --
>> Larry
>>
>>
>> "ChuckT" <ChuckT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:179D75CE-0679-4FD4-A627-FC7B175F3608@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Yes I did. Performance is better now. On a fresh boot and logon it >>> takes
>>> maybe a minute for the icons on the main (left hand) side to show up.
>>> This
>>> is way better than before, thank you very much.
>>>
>>> How do I get the documents to clone back to the server? Trying to >>> use
>>> tried
>>> and true GPO for redirecting the users documents to a folder on the >>> hard
>>> drive server under their user name. I can't seem to find where these >>> are
>>> going on the server.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> "Larry Struckmeyer" wrote:
>>>
>>>> You did the part about slow login times:?
>>>>
>>>>> There have been issues with slow logon times, where turning off
>>>>> auto-tuning
>>>>> on the Vista client may help:
>>>>> From a command prompt, type:
>>>>> netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled
>>>>> netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled "
>>>> --
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "ChuckT" <ChuckT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:15FBE4CD-8192-4E8E-B7F5-B35FBB85F678@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Quick follow up question. Do you know why it take several minutes
>>>>> AFTER
>>>>> you
>>>>> apply these patches for the icons and menu items to appear in the >>>>> START
>>>>> MENU?
>>>>> Do I have to set a logon policy for all vista clients to have the
>>>>> autotuning
>>>>> and rss disabled? That did seem to help.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Larry Struckmeyer" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Chuck:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are discussing SBS 2003 here? Did you add the patch for SBS >>>>>> and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> patch for Vista?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Follow these links for Vista patches to apply to the SBS server:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Install the Vista and Outlook 2007 compatibility update on the SBS
>>>>>> server
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9BF2F1E4-1B2C-471B-A284-E0C8C169FAC3&displaylang=en
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be sure to read the bottom part of this page for additional
>>>>>> requirements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is another MS article about the same fix:
>>>>>> Windows Small Business Server 2003: Windows Vista and Outlook 2007
>>>>>> compatibility update
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=926505
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Review the following: Each has a couple of links to follow:
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555912
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For Vista Clients to work properly with SBS 2003:
>>>>>> To join the domain, Vista must be Business, Enteprise or Ultimate.
>>>>>> And should/must be joined to the SBS network using the >>>>>> connectcomputer
>>>>>> wizard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/04/04/vista-slow-after-sp2-installed.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There have been issues with slow logon times, where turning off
>>>>>> auto-tuning
>>>>>> on the Vista client may help:
>>>>>> From a command prompt, type:
>>>>>> netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled
>>>>>> netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, disable all firewalls. Pay particular attention to McAffee, >>>>>> as
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> must disable all services in MSCONFIG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Possible DNS Config Problems
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check your DNS settings on the Vista client.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In particular if you are using "Append these DNS suffixes (in >>>>>> order):"
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> sure the internal
>>>>>> domain is in the list and at the top.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At a command prompt you should be able to resolve the server name
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> DNS suffix (e.g.
>>>>>> nslookup servername).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WSUS 2.0?
>>>>>> One thread discussed a problem with an older installation of WSUS >>>>>> that
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> not update Vista
>>>>>> Not tested by me.:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Old installation prior to Nov 2006 of WSUS that does not allow >>>>>> Vista
>>>>>> Patches
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>> 1. If the WSUS was installed prior to November, you need to go
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> the WSUS console and unclick all products/save/reclick all
>>>>>> products/save
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> resync.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. If you are behind wsus 2.0 you need to install wsus 30 to allow >>>>>> the
>>>>>> Vista
>>>>>> to manually MU. Behind 2.0 it won't/can't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "ChuckT" <ChuckT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:5D371AF0-A805-4B9C-831F-D84E98241A58@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Hi:
>>>>>>> I built a new laptop with Vista and joined it to the domain.
>>>>>>> Whenever
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> log
>>>>>>> in locally the machine runs fine, whenever I log in as a domain >>>>>>> user
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> machine's performance drops significantly. The disk light is
>>>>>>> constantly
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> and the icons on the start menu disappear. I cannot run anything
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> SEARCH box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also the mapped drives are gone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There must be a setting to get this right or either I have set >>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> incorrectly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone have any thoughts ?
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>


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