Re: sbs backup / volume shadow copy problem

I have an action pack, so I pretty much have everything, including R2.
Should I do the repair using the R2 disc? What was originally installed was
probably RTM at the time.


"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

I'm assuming you have SBS 2003 RTM CDs and not CDs with SBS SP1.

First uninstall all remnants of Acronis. Then do a repair install of the
base Windows 2003 (boot on SBS 2003 CD1 and repair), reboot and go through
the SBS 2003 SP1 install (starting with Windows 2003 SP1). Then do all the
critical MS Security updates. You might want to stop at that point and not
muddy the waters with Windows 2003 SP2 until the server is back up to speed
in all respects.

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"Dan Hagerman" <DanHagerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Merv,

SBS 2003 SP1 by itself didn't help.

I'm trying to mentally prepare for all the crap that I'll have to deal
with
if I do a repair install, SP2, SBSSP1... any advice, caveats, etc?

Thanks for all your help, I appreciate it.

Dan


"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

You know Dan, if just reapplying SBS 2003 SP1 doesn't fix it, it may be
at
the Windows OS level (especially since it involves Shadow Copy). You
might
need to so a repair install of Windows 2003 (boot from SBS 2003 SP1),
followed by applying Windows 2003 SP2 and then, possibly, SBS 2003 SP1
again. I have a feeling that this may be the best approach.

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"Dan Hagerman" <DanHagerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks, I'll give it a try. I'll keep you posted!


"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

You may have Windows 2003 SP2 installed but not SBS 2003 SP2 (which
doesn't
exist; only SBS 2003 SP1 has been released at this point in time). My
thought was to reinstall SBS 2003 SP1 over the top of your current
setup
to
see if that fixes the problem.

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"Dan Hagerman" <DanHagerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Hi Merv,

I requested the hotfix for the registry key.

Curious, why would I install SP1 when I already have SP2?

Regarding the DiscWizard issue, the actual imaging process worked
fine.
It
was the fact that DiscWizard itself installed some of it's own VSS
stuff
that
broke Windows'. At the time [9/11/07], DW installed just fine on
SBS2003 -
but the latest version from their web site will not... so they
apparently
realized there is a problem and clearly don't support the OS
anymore.
It
wasn't obvious when I did it.

Anyway, I'll keep the DriveImageXML in mind for next time :-)



"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

Hi Dan,

But I'm wondering if the registry is hosed and applying the hotfix
might
rebuild the registry key properly? I can't find anything else that
might
be
helpful.

Since your restore of the image was apparently not entirely
sucessful,
your
entire server configuration is suspect. And of course, the Seagate
DiscWizard is not supported on Windows Server 2003. A call to
Micosoft
Support ($) may be able to get you back up and running (but MS
generally
doesn't support restores from image on servers or workstations).

At this point, you might try reinstalling SBS SP1...

Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=B6F8A4C0-B707-4161-ADEB-44F1B756119F&displaylang=en

Or start again with a fresh image...

This thread mentions DriveImageXML
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs/browse_thread/thread/f6a375fab32cb3b9/62db9a7a9552367a?hl=en&lnk=st&q=sbs+2003+free+image+software#62db9a7a9552367a

I've never used DriveImageXML before others in this newsgroup have
indicated
that it works with servers. Of course you would need to reimage
your
original drive. There are also other commerical programs ($) that
do
imaging well (StorageCracft's ShadowProtect for one).

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"Dan Hagerman" <DanHagerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Thanks. The registry key is present, with a bunch of settings
within.

Anything else?


"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

Maybe...

You receive an error message when you try to run a Server
Management
wizard
in Windows Small Business Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940318

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"Dan Hagerman" <DanHagerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Just in case you missed this post...

FYI, I'm running the wizard from the Server Management app. I
just
realized
there were two other options under Configure Backup; (1)
Modify
Storage
for
Deleted Files and E-mail, and (2) Configure My Documents
Redirection.

If I run (1), I don't have the choice of any options; it goes
straight
to
the Finish screen, and says:
The following settings were made regarding deleted items:
No disk space was reserved for deleted files.
Deleted e-mail messages will not be retained.

If I click Finish, I get the same error as I do when running
the
Configure
Backup wizard.

(2), I have the option to redirect all my documents folders to
the
default
shared folder..., redirect all my documents folders to a
network
folder...,
or do not redirect my documents folders. If I select the
latter,
I
get
a
confirmation message, and the screen closes. It did not have
any
positive
effect on the backup.

Anything else I can try?


"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

Sorry about that Dan. I was trying to do it from memory
(almost
always a
bad idea)...

The "Storage Allocation for Deleted Files and Email" screen
should
come
right after the "Define Backup Schedule" screen. It allows
you
to
set
"Deleted Item Retention" for recovering mail messages and
also
to
set
the
Volume Shadow Copy space requirements.

If you don't see it in the Configure Backup wizard, you
should
have
a
link
on the Manage Small Business Server Backup page for "Modify
Storage
for
Deleted Files and E-mail" which will take you directly into
it.

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"Dan Hagerman" <DanHagerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
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How do I get there? When I click Configure Backup, that's
what I
get.


"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

No, not the Modify screen. It's the Configure Backup
screen.
:-)

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"Dan Hagerman" <DanHagerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote
in
message
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Hi Merv, thanks for the response. I'm not seeing the
screen
you
mention
anywhere in the wizard. These are the screens I get:

Welcome
Modify backup settings (change existing backup settings
or
do
not
use)
Backup Location
Backup Data Summary
Define Backup Schedule
Completing... (Finish screen)

I tried deleting the Small Business Backup Script.bks
thinking
that's
why
maybe it was skipping those screens, but no luck.

Thanks,
Dan


"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

A thought... (not sure if this will work)

Re-run the SBS Backup wizard and on the "Storage
Alloaction
for
Deleted
Files and Email" screen, uncheck "Enable periodic
Snapshots
of
user's
shared
.

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