Re: How do I configure SBS 2003 as a DHCP server?

Hi JJ,

To disable the private "LAN" side DHCP service (not the DHCP service on the
public "WAN" side of the router) on Speadstream 6520, it appears that all
you need to do is disable it in the proper place in the web interface. No
other aspect of the router's "intelligence" should be affected. There
appears to be nothing "special" about this Speedstream modem-router. (It's
just another modem-router like so many others).

See page 45, Step 3 (DHCP Server: Enable Disable DHCP Relay) of the
link I mentioned for the Speedstream manual in my last post. Then get rid
of the PPPoE adapter and enable your Speedstream as a DSL modem and router.
Set up your network per the following diagram

Two Nics, a dynamic IP address, ISA and a router
http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=266&articleType=ArticleView&articleId=74

Then let the Speedstream handle the PPPoE sign on and re-run CEICW to
configure the SBS server to handle DHCP service for the LAN side of your
network.

For the Vista computer to interact with SBS, make sure you have installed
all the required updates to SBS:

Windows Small Business Server 2003: Windows Vista and Outlook 2007
compatibility update
(required for Vista machines on SBS 2003 whether or not you use Outlook
2007)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;926505

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Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
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"JJ" <JJ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The SpeedStream 6520 is indeed capable of handling PPPoE. However, if I
need
to disable it's DHCP functionality, I have to disable all it's extra
intelligence (at least that's why my ISP told me) including it's PPPoE
capability. Therefore, I configured SBS as my PPPoE conduit. When you run
CEICW, there's an option to do this. So, the PPPoE adapter I have is on
SBS
as a software component. At this time, SBS authenticates against my ISP's
servers for PPPoE.

Merv, please see Cris' post below and let me know if there's anything else
I
need to do.

Thanks.

"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

Where did the need for a "PPPoE adapter" come from (and where is it
installed)? Your SpeedStream 6520 should be able to handle PPPOE.

SpeedStream 6520 manual (Sieman's Australia guide)
http://www.siemens.com/Daten/siecom/Australia/ICN/Internet/ICN_Unitwide/WORKAREA/au_ed_in/templatedata/English/file/binary/6500_UM_007-6770-001_1274277.pdf

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Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
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"JJ" <JJ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Merv:

I can now see that my external NIC does indeed have a private IP
address.
It's my PPPoE adapter -which has been newly added to my configuration,
since
I had to enter my username/password for the PPPoE connection somewhere
other
than the modem - that has the public and static IP address. I had to
run
CEICW again after disabling the DHCP server on the modem which is a
Siemens
SpeedStream 6520.

Here's the new output of ipconfig /all, which was executed on SBS,
encapsulated in a C-style comment:

/***************************************************

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : website
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Internet-Centricity.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Internet-Centricity.local
no-domain-set.bellcanada

Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 PT Desktop
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-21-02-DF-14
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2

Ethernet adapter Internet Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : no-domain-set.bellcanada
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Compatible Fast
Ethernet
Ada
pter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-8F-FE-CF-58
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.11
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, September 16, 2007
19:34:16
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, September 19, 2007
19:34:16

PPP adapter Bell Business Internet:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 76.65.201.159
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 76.65.201.159
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 67.69.184.199
67.69.184.7
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
***************************************************/

Should I change anything here?

Thanks.

"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

I thought you had a router on your network. Your IP config (from a
previous
post) for the server indicated that you have 2 NICS and that the
external
one was assigned a static private IP address (192.168.2.11).
Generally,
this indicates that the modem is really a "modem-router". What
make/model
"modem" do you have?


Your Server ipconfig (from a previous post)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : website
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Internet-Centricity.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Internet-Centricity.local
no-domain-set.bellcanada

Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 PT Desktop
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-21-02-DF-14
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2

Ethernet adapter Internet Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : no-domain-set.bellcanada
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Compatible Fast
Ethernet
Ad
pter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-8F-FE-CF-58
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.11
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, September 13, 2007
21:50:19
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, January 18, 2038
23:14:07
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
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"JJ" <JJ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Merv:

Are you sure that you want me to assign a static and private IP
address
to
the external NIC? How will hosts on the Internet find my server?
Remember,
I
connect to the Internet using the external NIC.

As of now, I have disabled the DHCP server on my modem. And the
external
NIC
is set to "Obtain an IP Address Automatically". Isn't this the right
way
to
do this?

Please clarify.

Thanks.


"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

Hi JJ,

Here's a diagram of how your network should be physcially set up:

Two Nics, a dynamic IP address, ISA and a router
http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=266&articleType=ArticleView&articleId=74

Your ipconfig from an earlier posts shows that the external SBS
NIC
has
been a assigned a dynamic IP from your router's DHCP service.
After
you
have the physical network set up correctly, from the SBS server
access
the
web interface of the router (192.168.2.1) and turn off DHCP on the
router.
Then from the SBS server:

My Network Places | Properties | External NIC | Properties |
Internet
Protocol (TCP/IP) | Properties | assign a (static) IP of
192.168.2.11
and
enter 192.168.16.2 as the (static) Preferred DNS server.

Now, check the SBS server NIC bindings:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Right click My Network Places...Properties. Highlight the Internal
NIC.
Then
select Advanced...Advanced Settings from the top menu for that
window.

The Internal NIC should be displayed first followed by the External
NIC.
If
not, move the Internal NIC to the top of the list.
The Internal NIC should have File and Printer Sharing bound (check
marked)
to the TCP/IP Protocol.
The Internal NIC should have Client for Microsoft Networks bound
(check
marked) to the TCP/IP Protocol.
The External NIC should be bound to TCP/IP only (no other protocols
or
services).
-----------------------------------------------------------------

After everything is set up properly, re-run CEICW

CEICW Walkthrough
http://www.sbs-rocks.com/sbs2k3/sbs2k3-n2.htm

On the Firewall screen, make sure you enable the firewall, select
the
services you want, create the Web Server Certificate and finish the
rest
of
CEICW.

At that point, the SBS server should be handling DHCP for your LAN.

Also, make sure that the firewall client of ISA has been installed
on
each
workstation (but not on the server itself).

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"JJ" <JJ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The kind of networking people I get here would introduce
spyware/trojans/rootkits into my PCs to control them so that they
can
get
more business from me. So, that's not an option.

The DSL router that I'm using does have a static and public IP
address
on
it's WAN interface. The 192.168.2.1 address is where it hosts an
embedded
HTTP server for administering the router. The DHCP server on the
router
assigns the static IP address 192.168.16.2 to my SBS PC. I would
like
to
turn
off the DHCP server on the router as per your suggestion.
However,
my
ISA
Server is blocking access to 192.168.2.1 - the router's HTTP
server.
What
kind of rules should I create on my ISA Server to allow this?

Thanks.


"Steve" wrote:

Sorry but this is getting more confusing all the time. The SBS
NIC(s)
should
have static IPs assigned to them that are appropriate for the IP
range(s)
being used. The DSL router should not have DHCP on. SBS should
run
DHCP.
Is
your DSL router receiving a public IP on its WAN interface? I'm
not
sure
how
it can be using both a 192.168.16.x and 192.168.2.x range?

I think it may be time to bring in outside help by someone
knowledgeable
about SBS and general networking to help you sort this out.

"JJ" <JJ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Steve:

The DSL modem has to have DHCP running. SBS has to have an IP
address
that
my DSL router assigned to it. Otherwise, how will the DSL
router


.

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