Re: Using Remote Desktop From an SBS Domain

I am in communication with them now. They use NAT and private IP addresses
between me and the Internet and that is as much as I know.


"Claus" <cjobes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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No, it wouldn't. There is definitely something on that router or between
the router and the internet. What is between that router and the internet?
Have you talked to your ISP?

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Claus
"Jeff Teel" <jdteel@RMoveThis sugardog.com> wrote in message
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There is an NAT router supplied by my ISP. I don't know if it's anything
more than that or not. This is a fixed wireless Internet connection so
even after my router there is a large private network to travel through
before I get to the actual Internet. I do have an SBS RDP Outbound Access
Rule in ISA.

I plugged my laptop into my router location and temporarily plugged in
there and still couldn't RDP so I suspect the ISP's router is where the
problem is. But if it's just NAT would it still be blocking outbound
traffic for Remote Desktop?

Thanks
Jeff


"Claus" <cjobes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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ISA in a standard configuration would not prevent you from using Remote
Desktop from within your LAN to a computer on the internet. I do this
all the time. Do you by any chance have a firewall between your SBS WAN
and the Internet?

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Claus
"Jeff Teel" <jdteel@RMoveThis sugardog.com> wrote in message
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I am narrowing down where the problem is with connecting to an XP Pro
computer that is on a remote network now. I was able to use a dial-up
Internet connection, bypassing my SBS/ISA network all together. So the
machine that I'm trying to connect to is configured to accept Remote
Desktop Connections. Now I just have to figure what is preventing me
from connecting while I'm using my XP Workstation when connected to my
SBS network. Would ISA be preventing outbound RDP connections or do
ports have to be open to allow me to Remote Desktop out from my SBS
network?

I've spent most of the day looking for information regarding the client
end of a Remote Desktop connection and have found little about it.
Maybe it's just not normally an issue.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Jeff


"Jeff Teel" <jdteel@RMoveThis sugardog.com> wrote in message
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I have looked at that article again today and also read through it
yesterday. It goes into detail about how to set the host computer up
(the machine who's desktop I'm wanting to connect to) but doesn't say
much about ports or settings on the client end. I have no control over
the host end but just wanted to be sure I have things set correctly on
the client end to allow this to work.

Thanks
Jeff


"Ritch_DA" <RitchDA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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From what I remember when you install tsweb on your host PC you can
change
the port number you connect to from 80 (default) to a port of your
choice.
Then obviously create the port forward in your router on your chosen
port to
the appropriate IP (local PC's IP) then connect to it in internet
explorer
using the following syntax: http://ipaddress:port/tsweb/

You still need to open 3389.

Have a careful read through those instructions I linked to, that
article
explains exactly how to setup what you are trying to do.

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"Jeff Teel" wrote:

It would appear that way but I'm not sure just how to change that.
This
machine is on a University network and has a public IP address
assigned to
it. I have tried using the IP address in the Computer: box as well
as the
actual domain/computer name of the machine with the same results.
You
sparked a question in my mind about installing tsweb on the host pc
though.
Am I assuming correctly that connecting using a web browser through
ts still
uses port 3389? Either way (using a web browser or the Remote
Desktop
client) does it require any ports to be open on the client end?

Thanks
Jeff

"Ritch_DA" <RitchDA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Jeff

I read through very quickly but it sounds like you are connecting
to the
wrong machine.

Good solution is to install tsweb on the host machine, change the
port to
something other than 3389 then connect to the machine via your
browser.

Here's all the info you need:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/northrup_03may16.mspx

Hope that helps

"Jeff Teel" wrote:

I have tested it and I get the message "The system could not log
you on.
Make sure your user name and domain are correct, then type your
password
again. Letters in the password must be typed in the correct
case." I am
positive that the username and password are being put in
correctly. There
are a couple of things that make me question settings. One, when
I get
the
message The system could not log you on........ my workstation
appears to
be
trying to logon to my SBS. The desktop picture thats on my server
shows
and
the Windows Server logon screen appears for me to re-enter the
credentials.
I'm also getting logon failure errors in my security log from the
server.
I
can however see the connection take place in ISA

Logon Failure:
Reason: Unknown user name or bad password
User Name: test
Domain: network
Logon Type: 10
Logon Process: User32
Authentication Package: Negotiate
Workstation Name: SERVER
Caller User Name: SERVER$
Caller Domain: teelnet
Caller Logon ID: (0x0,0x3E7)
Caller Process ID: 5296
Transited Services: -
Source Network Address: 10.10.2.4
Source Port: 60818

Some history about my Internet connection. I have a fixed
wireless
Internet
provider. The provider maintains a large wireless LAN that uses
private
IP
addresses.They have access points located on towers around the
area that
a
device from my location looks at. The Source Network Address:
10.10.2.4
is
the wireless IP address side of my router. In short my router has
two
NIC's,
the 10.10.2.4 (fixed wireles side) and 192.168.0.x side.

Thanks
Jeff


"Claus" <cjobes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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did you test it? did it work?

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Claus
"Jeff Teel" <jdteel@RMoveThis sugardog.com> wrote in message
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I am attempting to connect to a Windows XP Pro PC on a totally
different
network from a workstation on my SBS network. I have SBS 2003
SP1 with
ISA
2004. The PC that I'm trying to connect to does have a static
IP
address
and I'm using that for the Computer Name in the Remote Desktop
Connection
client. I used "telnet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 3389" to see if the
remote
workstation was listening on the correct port and it is. My
question,
are
there any ISA adjustments needed on my network in order for me
to
Remote
Desktop out to another XP Pro machine on a different network
over the
Internet? I'm using the c:\windows\system32\mstsc.exe
application to
make
the connection. The remote host does not have Remote Desktop
Web
Connection installed on it.

Thanks
Jeff





















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