Re: SBS2003 & Seperate Exchange

Thanks, this sounds like it could be an ideal solution for us.
KJ, on you first mail you mentioned "Move all the user mailboxes to the
second server and route incoming mail to the second server". How do I route
the mail to the second server? Is this a port forwarding route or just a
setting in SBS to tell it to use the second server.
Also are there any points I need to note or anything special that needs
doing when building a second exchange server? I am hoping it is a straight
forward process.

Thanks, Scott



"kj [SBS MVP]" wrote:

Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] wrote:
not having done this...does the SBS simply pass OWA to the second
server?

You know Cris, I think it does. I've got a couple like this and 443 is
forwarded to the SBS server. Both http/rpc and OWA seem to work fine. I
suspect they wouldn't if the SBS server or services were down. Looks like
something for me to investigate!



"kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Deadthing wrote:
Yes we will be, We are just doing test builds at the moment to see
the best way of configuing the system. If we were running exchange
seperatly how would we pass the incoming traffic through SBS to the
seperate exchange server. Or are you recomending that both servers
are connected to the router and we route the exchange traffic
directly to it?

Scott

The easiest way is to keep Exchange on the SBS server and just
install Exchange as a second server. Move all the user mailboxes to
the second server and route incoming mail to the second server.
Exchange will route anything needed between the two Exchange servers
and the "workload" will be on the second server. This method also
allows you to leave the offline address book, recepient update
services, and a host of other light load componets on SBS where it's
expected to be found. ( It also allows some wizard functionality to
continue without 'issues' ).

"Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

My personal opinion is that if you are running Premium and also
running SQL, which is can be a memory hog as well, then you should
move that to the separate server.

Exchange Server is really integrated with SBS and so basically you
will shut down the Exchange on SBS and Setup the new one and move
mail boxes
You could have had everything regarding Exchange with it on SBS
that you have with having it on a separate server.. OWA or
Outlook over HTTP
My opinion, a lot of money spent that probably wasn't necessary

Both SBS and new Exchange Server should be behind your router on
the Lan Connection side of the Router

You said you have Premium Ed. So are you running ISA as well?

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"Deadthing" <Deadthing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks for the quick response,

Yeah we are running SBS 2003 R2 premium and have purchased a
seprate 2003 Server R2 & Exchange 2003 (both standard versions).

The reasons for hosting the exchange on a seprate host was to
reduce load on
the SBS machine and allow Exchange store to eat up as much mem as
it wants on
its own machine. We have also been running SBS 2000 upto date on
our old server and wanted to open exchange up to remote users but
are paranoid about
security and access. (We hope these are justified or else we have
wasted a bit of money LOL!!!).
Granted, the new structure and features of SBS 2003 were unkown to
us when we made the descission but now we have seperate licenses
and servers we would
like to use them if possible.
We have both systems installed and can administer exchange from
SBS, we just
dont know how to pass the external request thorugh SBS to
Exchange. That is
why we are wondering about positioning the router on the internal
lan so data
can port forward directly to it. This obviously loses some of the
security gained from SBS and ISA.

Hope this clarifies things a little more,

Scott


"Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

You do realize that you have to have Exchange CALs for this awell

If you can explain why you would do this, then we can probably
give you better advice

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"Deadthing" <Deadthing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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We are trying to set up SBS 2003 but with Exchange running on a
different
server (Not the one that came with sbs but a new license!!!!!).
My question
is this, Where is the best place to position our router ie.
behind the SBS
machine or on the internal network so both servers have access
to it??? If
behind the SBS machine then how do I route the relevant data to
exchange
via
the SBS? We have looked into the settings in ISA 2004 but isnt
this just
the
firewall?.... do we need to set up additional routing or can
this not be
done. It seems like putting it on the internal network is
easiest but then
it
bypasses SBS security.

Any advice would be gratefully recieved,
Many thanks,

Scott

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