Re: Virtual Server on SBS

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Mike Webb wrote:
Ok; thought I'd have to actually get new processors.

Mike

So, not to pop your new bubble, but .... The 2800 isn't what is running the
SBS server right?

While Virtual Server 2005 (R2 - SP1) is a free download, each Virtual
Machine ("guest OS") requires separate OS licensing, just like a physical
installation would.

....oh, and there's no 64bit VM "Guest" support from Microsoft (yet).



"kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Mike Webb wrote:
Sorry it took awhile; here's what it said: D7590PROCESSOR, 80546K,
3.0G, 1M, XEON NOCONA, 800, E0

64 bit Server drivers available from Dell. You'd want to update BIOS
before proceeding.



"kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Mike Webb wrote:
Thanks. According to MSINFO32, my processors are "x86 Family 15
Model 4 Stepping 1 GenuineIntel ~2992 Mhz". I take that to mean
32-bit. Right/

Hmmm. That's what it's running as. I wouldn't give up just yet.
Take your Dell Service tag and go to their support site, plug in
the TAG and check what you're supposed to have under the covers.


"kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Mike Webb wrote:
No, got it from a local MS Gold Partner about 2 1/2 years ago.

I'm embarrased to say I don't know how to check if I've got a
32- or 64-bit system. Took a quick look at Device Manager, but
it didn't say when I checked on the processor properties.

Mike

Start|run|msinfo32

The first section should tell you the proc specifics, and of
course the BIOS should give you addtional info, but I'm pretty
sure the Xeons are 64bit.

If so, I'd start auditing that server for required software that
is 32bit only.... and start looking around for a 64bit version of
Windows Server 2003 Std.

Virtual Server newsgroup is;

microsoft.public.virtualserver



"kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Mike Webb wrote:
Hmmm ....
I've got dual Intel Xeon's running at 3 GHz

Sounds like a 64 bit proc to me. Did you order it from Dell
with the OS installed? Did they send you a 64 bit OS CD?


"kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Mike Webb wrote:
I had no idea. As for which verion I have, it looks like
standard. I just looked at the System Information tab of My
Computer and it says 4 GB of RAM. Looks like I have 8 GB of
RAM that could be used in VS.

It could if it was Enterprise or 64bit, but VS takes away
from RAM already available to the OS.

What proc is in that 2800?


"Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]"
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Windows Server Standard, can only take advantage of 4GB of
RAM. If you have 12GB, the OS will only use 4GB

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"Mike Webb" <Mike_Webb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Unfortunately, no -- just 32-bit.
"kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Mike Webb wrote:
Good advice. I've got 12 GB RAM on my Dell PowerEdge
2800, with ~300 GB of HD space. Would that make a
difference? ) Other than my being completely new to VS?

Is that a 64 bit sevrer? If it is and you're running
Server 2003 Std 64bit, that makes for a nice Virtual
Server 2005 (64bit) R2 Sp1 residence.

Should make for a good physical MOSS installation as
well.

"kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Mike Webb wrote:
Running SBS 2003 Premium SP2, ISA 2004, Exchange, SQL,
WSUS, 2 NICs and a router, dynamic IP, DDNS service
through DYNDNS.org, Symantec Backupexec 11d.
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I recently bought MOSS 2007 for an emerging
requirement and was poking around blogs, websites,
and NG's to learn more about it and came across the
term Virtual Server. I've seen it mentioned before by
MVPs, usually in conjunction with a test environment,
so passed over it. Well, I went to MS's page on
Virtual Server and am now wondering if I can use this
product to host MOSS 2007 on my SBS box. Any advice?
Also, are there any good sites or blogs to start with
on Virtual Server on SBS that will help me learn about
using it? I'm certainly not a pro, but I think it
could be very useful for our non-profit. Many thanks
in advance!

As I recall Sharepoint Server 2007 'system
requirements' ask for 1GB ram minimum and 2GB
recommended. With a 4GB limit on your SBS server to
start with and your full SBS Prem configuration,
you probably don't want to be giving 25%- 50% of that
away to MOSS. Virtual PC2007 is a good place to comfy
with virtual machine technology and when run on a beefy
workstation is much safer place to begin than on your
SBS server. Once you've mastered that, Virtual Server
is a natural progression. --
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