Re: SBS 2003 Std Queries
- From: "POP" <iknowyouwant@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:14:31 +0100
Hi Vicky, you do have a high grade firewall box.
Which model is it ?
p.s remember those wizards, everytime you want to do something on server always ask 'where is the wizard' try to get out of enterprise mode... ;-)
e.g, setting up a user is not in AD, you go to Server Management Console, To Do List, and add user here. Adding computer to domain is done via http://servername/connectcomputer.... sorry if you already grasped this.
p.s you going to use 1 nic or 2 ?
"Vicky" <Vicky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:FD31CF02-A63C-4B54-9DD3-5D2BA10FBE8E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Dear POP,
I tried the setup in a virtual lab. Though the configuration options have
difference & similarities in comparision to the STD & Enterprise edtion of
Exchange, my main concern would now be to allow external user secured access
via the existing fortinet firewall, which I am not atall fimilar with.
Well I will go ahead with the setup & in case if I face a problem will get
back.
Thanks
"POP" wrote:
Hi Vicky, apologies for any confusion...
Built in SBS pop3 connector has issues with the 'global' mailbox i.e
catchall. Individual mailboxes have lesser problems but then you have the 4
point issue I mentioned earlier.
Remote users doing a pop3 access to your SBS server is hit and miss, I had
clients using that scenario for a while and then suddenly it stopped
working. I think it was after some service packs but didn't persue it as
they now access emails via RPC HTTP.... which is much more secure. Depending
where you are (in UK) we have issues with ISPs allowing sending mail to flow
through their SMTP servers in that the company domain needs authorising but
then this registration needs to tie up with the home address which it
doesn't. You then need to send via your SBS server and now you have to open
it up to relay... You must ensure strong passwords are implemented for this.
Also you have a lot more support calls / configuring home user machines if
they pop3 to your SBS.
Oh boy I can see this getting a bit confusing for you... sorry
"Vicky" <Vicky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:6A095A46-B90E-4010-B9BE-335176B4E9F1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Please clarify, I have a confusion
>
> R U refering to using the built in SBS pop connector [that could create > a
> problem] to pull emails from a catchall pop account hosted at the > service
> providers end & then distributing it to users in your loacl network.
>
> Or
>
> is it that users having Ac/mailboxes on the SBS server will have > problems
> doing a POP access from the internet to there mailboxes on the sbs > server
> hosted in the office LAN
>
> "POP" wrote:
>
>> Hi Vicky,
>>
>> SBS / Microsoft pop3 is not recognised as a business option. It is >> really
>> installed there for testing / setting up. It is advisable to go SMTP.
>>
>> Search this NG for pop3 and you will see many issues of lost emails. >> It
>> is
>> generally on the 'global' mailbox configuration. Individual mailboxes
>> works
>> better, but if you had 75 users on individual pop3 mailboxes, alot of
>> configuration and issues with 15 min downloads. Also POP3...
>>
>> 1. Does not support BCC
>> 2. username and password is sent in clear text.
>> 3. 15 min delivery (there is a registry hack to shorten the time but >> this
>> is
>> not supported by microsoft)
>> 4. If you implement exchange IMF (spam filter) doesn't work on POP3.
>>
>> Allowing users to pull down pop3 emails from elsewhere? Assume you >> mean
>> some
>> sort of personal emails ? If so they dont want to reply on behalf of
>> these ?
>> Dont have the option the way you can in Outlook / OE / WIndows mail in >> a
>> pop3 config. Exchange outlook needs additional configurations.
>>
>> Alternatively, are you thinking of company users wanting access to >> emails
>> and pop3 is your thoughts ? If so then recommend OWA but some >> individuals
>> dont like the web outlook interface, if they have XP and outlook 2003
>> then
>> can do RPC over HTTP
>> http://www.petri.co.il/configure_outlook_2003_to_use_rpc_over_http.htm
>>
>> Dont let all this put you off...lol, Once you get up and running you >> will
>> be
>> able to do it all in your sleep... Done your first test install yet...
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> "Vicky" <Vicky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:EB00FB10-74C0-47BD-9B69-CB441FA34D14@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Why do you suggest not to use pop3? In fact we also would require to
>> > allow
>> > few users pop access.
>> >
>> >
>> > "POP" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Vicky,
>> >>
>> >> It is usual to install 2 / 3 times,
>> >> 1. See what it does and make notes, have alook around.
>> >> 2. Implement what was learnt from first install
>> >> 3. Should feel confident that it is ok.
>> >>
>> >> Remember to use the SBS wizards, do not setup users 'manaually' use
>> >> the
>> >> wizard.
>> >>
>> >> 2 NICS is 'not a must' but installation will give you a warning >> >> there
>> >> is
>> >> only one installed. Seperating LAN from Internet is always a good
>> >> security
>> >> practice therefore 2 nics is required for this. It isn't daunting >> >> as
>> >> long
>> >> as
>> >> you run the wizards.
>> >>
>> >> SP1 for server was not recommended for SBS and there was a SP1
>> >> specific
>> >> to
>> >> SBS, new media should have this incorporated. SP2 was suggested OK >> >> for
>> >> SBS
>> >> but many issues in industry for even vanilla servers not just SBS. >> >> I
>> >> gather
>> >> many are holding off installing SP2... I am, did one at the weekend >> >> to
>> >> see
>> >> if any issues, maybe Microsoft has updated the SP2 and YUK !!!,
>> >>
>> >> Yes RRAS is in standard and wizard hardens for you and opens ports
>> >> required
>> >> for you.
>> >>
>> >> General ports are 25, 3389, 443, 444 and 4125. Please do not use
>> >> POP3....
>> >> ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Hope this helps and welcome to SBS, dont be a stranger....lol
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Vicky" <Vicky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:166E458C-A0EB-40DA-ABDC-EF2A1F6D25AE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Never installed/configured SBS2003 STD Edt before, will be >> >> > setting
>> >> > up
>> >> > in a
>> >> > couple of days.
>> >> >
>> >> > Just few queries.
>> >> >
>> >> > 1] do we require 2 NIC - is it a must?
>> >> > 2] Is Service Pack different from the regulare win or exchnage
>> >> > server?
>> >> > 3] does sbs2003 std edt have security config wizard to harden the
>> >> > server?
>> >> > 4] I have a Box Firewall in my network. If I will be setting up
>> >> > Exchange
>> >> > OWA, RPC/HTTP what port will I need to open?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >>
>>
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