Re: 3rd Party Backup Software

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Russ Grover (SBITS.Biz) wrote:
The Goal of SBS Wizard backup is to restore a Server in a disaster recovery.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/smallbusiness/prodtech/SBS/backup_restore_sbs2003.mspx

And it works...

You say, Manage data over time?
I can't think of the last time I've heard any lawsuit needing, "A email message from the year 2000."
In fact after the Microsoft and Sun Lawsuit in 1992,
You should have a Strict Email deletion policy.

Most data that I know of that is needed is kept and since hard drives are large that's not much of an issue.
Long term Data can be stored easily on a Dual Layer DVD.
Life Expectancy on a DVD is 100 Plus years.
Tape is 10 to 20 years assuming in a Humidity and temperature controlled environment.
(I don't know of any Small Business that have a Controlled environment for tapes)

Batch Scripts can be written to do basic Incremental Backups etc.
Even using Exmerge for saving mail retention for long periods of time I've done.
If you don't know how to do batch scripts, cheap programs like BackUpAssist work great.

So in a Nut shell, SBS backup Works for Basic Disaster recovery.. Nothing more needed...

Spending additional funds, to do the same thing is always an option.
You are fully welcome to spend your clients money on a solution that is built into SBS.
But the tools are there, if you take the time to learn...

Russ
And does SBS provide agents for other servers? Does SBS have Intelligent Disaster Recovery? Does it do bare-metal restore? Does SBS allow you to even restore a single e-mail accidentally deleted? Does it do encryption? Virus scan? Tape RAID? Tape streaming? Does SBS run with the option of cataloging to a database?

No, it does none of those because it is a simple, cheap, backup method best used for a home user. Maybe fine if the business you deal with is some small little 3 person shop, but SMBs have different requirements.
What you propose an a cheap, basic method that has no intelligence to it, it just throws data from one place to another.

Let us not forget that while SBS only allows for one PDC, this does not have an effect on running multiple servers. Most companies we deal with have a minimum of 4-5 servers they need to have protected in some way. Your methodology basically implies that each individual server needs to be backed up on it's own using it's own tape drive. Seems to me a lot cheaper just to run backup agents to a central server.

Then again this is what seperates the amateurs from the professionals I guess. If you have no experience with true disaster recovery methodology, then I can understand where something as basic as NTBackup would seem like all you need. And please do not even say you do, you pretty much have shown your amateurism by even proposing NTbackup, with some idiotic remark about "spending your clients money"? Give me a break, my clients happily pay for the extra software to insure complete coverage. In fact most use multiple packages to insure protection. The why is quite simple, and obviously lost on you. The longer the downtime, the more the costs rise. A professional solution that gets them back up and running in a shorter amount of time pays for itself in the end.

The result about not relying on NTbackup? How about getting a crashed server that fails to load back up in under 10 minutes? Can SBS backup do that? No, what it can do is require lots and lots of downtime, which you do realize ends up costing businesses money?

But in the end your lack of knowledge on this only short changes clients, who will be in for a surprise if a true disaster ever comes their way. Sure NTbackup may be able to replace some stupid little single file, but disaster recovery prevention just does not cover simple file restoration, it deals with an overall method of restoring a business back on-line in the LEAST amount of time. Believe me, I have brought this up with numerous people who have all said the same thing basically, nobody in their right mind with basic knowledge would ever depend upon NTBackup.
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