Re: Umove to Migrate SBS to new hardware

Homer,

I don't expect to address all of your issues because you are carrying a lot
of baggage along in the thread. I do want to make a couple of basic points
clear.

- MVPs don't get paid by MS, or by me.
- I don't pay/reward anyone for referals. (If I did, it would help support
your arguement)
- I do offer discounts only to members of groups who are delivering value
and education to members of local IT Pro Groups. I believe in giving a break
to professionally run peer groups. People who invest in a community have my
investment in that community as well.
- Most people posting in NGs post facts, as compared to your skewed guesses.
- Anyone interested can ask around to get opinions on Swing Migration from
non-MVPs if they distrust the source for that reason.
- Most people who have ordered my Technician Kit would probably argue with
you characterizing it as "just documentation". If they completed a several
thousand dollar project with no help that adds the value Swing Migration
does, that was worth $200, but if they needed and got help included for that
same price...that's a pretty good deal too.

In my documentation, I cite background KBs and whitepapers constantly to
ensure that if you ever want to check my facts, you can. Perhaps if you
attended a school with any academic training on writing technical papers you
would know that it's a professional practice to cite sources of information
you use? It helps build confidence in your work. I'm not trying to suggest
to someone that I'm taking them off into the woods....on the contrary. I'm
explaining an extremely complex project in terms that educate and train you
how to do even more valuable things....and complete a project or disaster
recovery of an SBS. (I saw that was one of your concerns.)

I don't mind you debating people about www.SBSmigration.com vs another
website or resource, I don't mind you arguing that I'm selling something
that MS should have created. I do think MS could have created a tool or a
document that would have meant I would have no job now supporting people
doing migration. However, after doing this for a couple of years now, I
think there's a lot of people who would value my help....just to get
support, even if I was walking them through the ADMT paper or something else
like it. I support my documentation to ensure that everyone knows that it
works, I put my word and my time behind it. I help people. I define a
process that works, and then stand behind it.

One of the unique values people get with my kit with respect to the support
is that with my background, I'd probably fit well in MS 2nd Level Support.
Every customer I have gets that level of experience and skill on their
support questions....there's no "entry level support" for triage or basic
issues. Each and every customer has the opportunity to talk to me about
whatever they want help on in their project. I'm not trying to make a big
thing about talking to "me" beyond that I'm available 1 on 1 to my
customers...every single one, worldwide.

Based upon my strategy on how to do Swing Migration as a project, not only
is the project solution transparent, it solves the problem of timeline for
construction. You can test the server in advance, offline, and construct the
server over days of weeks if you choose. It's a more professional solution,
and it follows trusted process and paths you can validate in MS
documentation and design.

As far as I can tell, Homer you are just an angry person, and if you are
helping people somewhere, it's a shame you don't have a nicer attitude and
respect for the people in this NG who help people. It's really not hard. You
answer questions you know the best way you know how without insulting
people.

It sure would be nicer and better for you if you didn't insult people while
asking for their help. That's just a free bit of advice.

Jeff Middleton SBS-MVP
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"Homer J. Simpson" <homer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Well at this point I am trying to avoid this "swing" migration for several
reasons. First off, Umove costs $129, and as a piece of software if it
operates as advertised, should completely ease the move. This swing
migration is nothing more than a set of documents, a method, that quite
frankly MS should have (#*@ing provided in the first place.
Swingmigration.com is nothing more than documents that MS should have
provided in the first place. Better yet, they should have actually
provided a proper tool to migrate SBS servers.

Do they not anticipate that hardware fails, or people sometimes just wish
to replace the current server? Obviously not since this whole integrated
piece of crap requires honestly steps that are just plain idiotic.

I find it quite objectionable that all the SBS-MVPs want to just forward
people to your "friends" $200 collection of documents. Are you all getting
a cut out of this? I sure hope so, seeing as this is all that certain
people seem to recommend.

Quite frankly I agree 100% with a many that Microsoft SBS is an OS that
just needs to be avoided. I know if this was Novell SBS this would take a
matter of minutes, with no requirements to even shut anything down...in
fact come to think about I just recently moved a Suse PDC to another
machine during the day without any downtime.


Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] wrote:
Understand that a standard windows server is not the same as an SBS
server...which holds all the roles for the AD and Exchange etc.
The swing migration was created by an SBS MVP, its been tried and proven
by hundreds if not thousands now. If you are going to spend money for a
tool, get one designed to do the job



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