Re: Umove to Migrate SBS to new hardware
- From: Jim Behning SBS MVP <jimbehning@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 22:13:22 GMT
No, I don't know of any mvp that gets a kickback. I sure don't. Jeff
has made a few tools on his own that help with the migration. I think
I cited an article by Microsoft that will let you migrate for free.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/884453 If you understand the article
you don't have to spend any money. Not even $129
You could say the same thing about Umove. A guy or company read a lot
of Microsoft articles. He created a script that backs up a lot of
important files that you could do on your own one by one if you know
what you are doing and know what you need. It is really no different
than Jeff reading a lot of articles, talking with Microsoft engineers,
writing some scripts, and writing the process down. He did not do this
task overnight. What does Backup Exec do? It builds on Microsoft's
basic backup and gives you a bit more. What does Diskeeper or
Perfectdisk do? It does a better job at a task that Microsoft can do.
What does a bicycle manufacturer do? What does a car manufacturer do?
Heck you can buy a horse, buy a cow and a bull. Have a few calves. Let
them grow up and slaughter them. You skin them and tan your own
leather. You have some meat to eat if you cut some ice last witnter
for your ice house. You rememered to build the ice house didn't you?
Don't forget to plow your fields with the horse and sow crops and
harvest them so you can fatten up the calves. Well you can skip the
horse and just build your own tractor. Of course you need to mine
aluminum, iron, build your own furnace to process the raw materials.
Oh heck. Just move to some climate where all you need to do grow a few
crops and then you can complain about how the WHO stopped using DDT
and now everyone in your village is suffering from malaria which was
not a big problem 35 years ago.
On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 15:56:56 -0500, "Homer J. Simpson"
<homer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well at this point I am trying to avoid this "swing" migration for.
several reasons. First off, Umove costs $129, and as a piece of software
if it operates as advertised, should completely ease the move. This
swing migration is nothing more than a set of documents, a method, that
quite frankly MS should have (#*@ing provided in the first place.
Swingmigration.com is nothing more than documents that MS should have
provided in the first place. Better yet, they should have actually
provided a proper tool to migrate SBS servers.
Do they not anticipate that hardware fails, or people sometimes just
wish to replace the current server? Obviously not since this whole
integrated piece of crap requires honestly steps that are just plain
idiotic.
I find it quite objectionable that all the SBS-MVPs want to just forward
people to your "friends" $200 collection of documents. Are you all
getting a cut out of this? I sure hope so, seeing as this is all that
certain people seem to recommend.
Quite frankly I agree 100% with a many that Microsoft SBS is an OS that
just needs to be avoided. I know if this was Novell SBS this would take
a matter of minutes, with no requirements to even shut anything
down...in fact come to think about I just recently moved a Suse PDC to
another machine during the day without any downtime.
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP] wrote:
Understand that a standard windows server is not the same as an SBS
server...which holds all the roles for the AD and Exchange etc.
The swing migration was created by an SBS MVP, its been tried and proven
by hundreds if not thousands now. If you are going to spend money for
a tool, get one designed to do the job
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