Re: Backup fails suspect VSS problem



Hi Kerry,

Yep, have re-registered them a couple of times before. Although COM+ seemed
fine I have followed the instructions in the article to reinstall COM+.
Will reboot and run a backup tonight and see what happens.

Nick


"Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*a*m> wrote in message
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Have you tried re-registering the shadow copy dll's?

http://blogs.technet.com/edwalt/archive/2006/02/02/418665.aspx

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sbs+backup+regsvr32+vssadmin+com%2B&btnG=Search&meta=

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"Nick" <NoSpam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I suspect this has something to do with VSS because after a failed backup
'VSSAdmin List Writers' shows most writers as 'Waiting for completion',
what is stopping these from reseting themselves? The only way to reset
them seems to be to reboot.

Googling this error shows lots of people with the same problem but no one
with a solution!

Nick


"Nick" <NoSpam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Anyone got any other ideas???


"Nick" <NoSpam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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It only fails if I backup System State at the same time as everything
else (including Exchange). System State can be backed-up on its own
fine!

Nick


"Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*a*m> wrote in message
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It's up to you. I'd be very concerned about a failing backup.

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"Nick" <NoSpam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Something I forgot to mention, it was exactly the same mothboard,
same model even the same revision.

The problem I have now is that the server appears to the customer to
be working fine, apart from the few remaining minor problems, the
staff are now back up and running fine. The business is still
struggling to recover from the downtime caused by the original server
crash. They are going to be extremely wary of letting me wipe out
what they have working in the hope of fixing what to them is a monor
error.

Nick


"Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*a*m> wrote in message
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Even though it sometimes looks like you don't need a repair install
I have found out the hard way that a motherboard swap almost always
requires it. I don't even try to boot after swapping a motherboard.
I boot from the install media and perform a repair install (in place
upgrade), then on the first boot to Windows go into the device
manager, enable the View hidden devices setting, remove all the old
leftover crap particularly NICs, then reboot. I am sure your problem
could be fixed but I really think you are at the point where it's
going to be better and quicker to rebuild from scratch.

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Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"Nick" <NoSpam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Kerry,

No did not do actually need to do an inplace upgrade, once
update.sys had been replaced with the older version we had a
bootable windows partition so restored over the top of the
existing.

Reinstalling from scratch would leave them offline for an awfully
long time, remembering that there is then also service pack 1 to
install and all the rest that came with that, not to mention all
the other software, configuration changes and various fixes which
have since been applied.

Nick


"Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*a*m> wrote in message
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After replacing the motherboard did you do a repair install?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816579/en-us

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Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"Nick" <NoSpam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Since restoring our server after a no-boot total failure, system
state backup fails with the following errors:

Error: Could not access portions of directory System State\COM+
Class Registration Database.
You may not have permission to open the file, or the directory
may be missing or damaged.
Please contact the owner or administrator.

Error: Could not access portions of directory System
State\Registry.
You may not have permission to open the file, or the directory
may be missing or damaged.
Please contact the owner or administrator.

We also see the following event log errors



Event Type: Error

Event Source: Service Control Manager

Event Category: None

Event ID: 7011

Date: 02/01/2007

Time: 10:03:29

User: N/A

Computer: SERVER

Description:

Timeout (30000 milliseconds) waiting for a transaction response
from the NtFrs service.





Event Type: Error

Event Source: VolSnap

Event Category: None

Event ID: 14

Date: 02/01/2007

Time: 10:03:27

User: N/A

Computer: SERVER

Description:

The shadow copies of volume C: were aborted because of an IO
failure on volume C:.



Anyone suggest how to solve this, before the crash our backup
worked fine?

Thanks,
Nick


In case it is relevant - a brief explanation of the server crash:
Intermittant lockups and various disk problems with the
hardware mirrored drives.
Complete failure of RAID controller - can still boot from
source disk but not as part of RAID array.
Replaced mothboard with onboard RAID controller.
Server worked fine for about five days.
Server BSOD, pulled power now will not boot, seriously dead
server.
Safe mode and all other recovery modes failed.
Safe mode locks-up after acpitabl.dat
Reset BIOS to factory defaults.
Recovery console now boots.
Copy in older update.sys, this now allows boot but with large
amount of errors.
Recover server, partly from tape, partly by fixing various
individual problems.


















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