Re: 75 Limit

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Hi Abeam,

I saw a cool analogy some time ago, but don't remember where. Bags of bolts, and bags of meat. Bags of bolts representing Devices, and bags of meat representing Users. SBS CALs only apply to these two types of bags.

Computer *accounts* and User *accounts* in AD are neither bags of bolts nor bags of meat, therefore SBS CALs do not apply to them. Feel free to create as many as you like :-). (there is one exception, a virtual machine counts as a bag of bolts ;-))

Actual Computers are bags of bolts, and actual Users are bags of meat - therefore SBS CALs apply to them, so you must have the appropriate number and type of CALs for them - and 75 total is all that is allowed.

For example, a network with 75 workstations and 75 device CALs, but with 3 shifts of 75 users (total 225 Users) is permitted. Conversely, a network with 25 users and 25 User accounts, but where each user uses up to 3 devices to connect to the SBS server (total 75 devices) is permitted.

Concurrency isn't a factor in either case.

What happens if you don't have enough CALs? In other words, what happens if you aren't licensed? The same thing that happens when you drive your car without a valid drivers license. Nothing more, nothing less.

In either case, the choice is yours to make, the risk is yours to take. You need to make sure your customer understands this, and if you're providing services to a customer who won't accept the licensing terms, then you need to consider the possible consequences of that.

--
Les Connor [SBS MVP]
"Abeam" <Abeam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:7528EBF2-8F6D-43C4-B1A6-3B5C45F23E96@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I have read all kinds of things about SBS licensing.

I understand user/device CALs.

I understand that SBS is limited to 75 CALs total regardless of which type
is selected.

My major question is this.... What happens when the 75 limit is reached? Are
users not able to login? This company I've recently had to provide consulting
to has over 75 user accounts created. They have @65 workstations. At the
moment I'm not sure what type of CAL's are being implemented (device or user).

So I'm wondering what's going to happen when they reach the limit?

I'm assuming they are able to create over 75 users because using device
CAL's would allow an unlimited amount of users. It just cares about the
devices.

Will SBS allow me to create over 75 devices as well. I'm assuming it will
due to the fact that that per user licensing could be used in that instance.

So how is this being tracked?

Is it concurrent connections?

I've noticed some messages in the event log about exceeded licensed limit.

And on another note this company only has 40 CAL's total. They had only 30
previously. Purchasing 10 more CAL's stopped the event log errors from being
created. Again they still are using @65 workstations and over 75 users. Not
all are concurrent though.

Please provide some feedback. I'm telling this company they are about to
outgrow SBS. They don't want to spend the money as most companies don't. Most
of all I'd like to tell them what's going to happen when the limit is reached.

Thanks!

.



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