Re: NT Backup - WHAT A JOKE!
- From: Gregg <Gregg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:07:02 -0700
Hello ChrisBr. I realize this forum may be dedicated to SBS but since
you're a heavy REV user I wanted to ask you if you are still seeing
bluescreens and/or bugchecks in your environment? I recently installed two
REV USB drives and downloaded the latest iomega driver. One server is 2003
STD w/SP1. The other is 2000 Sp4 and will soon be upgraded to 2003. I have
killed my 2003 Sp1 server four times in two weeks with a bugcheck related to
revfs.sys. The exact error is:
Stop error
Reason Code: 0x805000f
Bug ID:
Bugcheck String: 0x00000022 (0x001400f9, 0xf24c3324, 0xf24c3020, 0xf5034d50)
Comment: 0x00000022 (0x001400f9, 0xf24c3324, 0xf24c3020, 0xf5034d50)
I'm frustrated that I can't reliably reproduce the problem but its
occurred more times that it ever should have. Any ideas?
Thanks very much.
"ChrisBr" wrote:
Bob wrote:.
First of all I think that a client will be justifiably reluctant to spend
money to buy additional software to implement the simplest of backup
solutions. Let that solution rest for self changer tape bank users who have
the appropriate budget. This is about SBS or at least SBS users i.e. the
plebs so let the equestrian classes go somehere else!
Secondly the wizard does not suit many SBS users needs. It's perfectly
possible to just follow the prompts and setup a backup scheduled to run (say)
every weekday. Unless that user has been through the rigmarole of
initialising the tape set in RSM that backup is going to fail. Eventually the
client gets fed up and just doesn't take a backup. Or maybe its failing
silently 'cos he's got better things to do than look at log files.
The simple (JCDFOT) solution will only require the user to change the backup
tape daily. If he forgets a day and the previous days tape gets overwritten
then it's no big deal. But the present situation in which the backup fails
because the "wrong" tape is in the drive isn't fail safe - it's fail
dangerous.
Agree completely! Small businesses are vastly more likely to lose data
because of this media protection nuissance than they are by overwriting an
earlier tape. But what is completely beyond my comprehension is why Microsoft
hasn't in years added a simple checkbox alla Backup Exec to the NTBackup GUI
to remove this protection and at least give one the CHOICE. That is just
plain silly. Am I to tell my client he needs to fork out $800 for BackupExec
because it has this checkbox when otherwise NTBackup would be more than
adequate?
I have used the /UM switch under Windows 2000 with results but not with 2003.
Basically I have lost all patience with the sorts of tape solutions the
average small-business owner is willing to pay for (read Travan or DDS). I
have started recommending Iomega REV drives instead in combination with hard
disks.
For those of you who haven't tested out the REV drive for yourself, let me
give you some firsthand experience.
Pros: Very fast especially when compared to lower-end tape solutions. Random-
access--no more endless cataloguing of tapes! According to Iomega, the
cartridges have a whopping 30yr shelf life. They do have 5 year warrantees.
Great for archiving lots of data. Large capacity--the new REVs are 70GB
native.
Cons: That funky CDFS file system. Not compatible with 2000 NTBackup. Do not
get the internal ATAPI or SCSI variants--get the external USB2. Have had lots
of driver problems with the internal units. Fragile readers-- one of my
internal ATAPIs died after a year and a half. On the internal ATAPIs it has
blue-screened my server more times than I care to mention with a revfs.sys
error. Very annoying! Iomega's driver programmers are recruited out of grade
school, I think.
I would not buy a REV drive for a Windows 2000 system but would for a 2003 so
long as the REV is USB2 external.
My basic setup, inelegant though it may be, is to set up an internal IDE hard
drive or external USB2 hard drive and use that as the primary daily backup
destination. SBSBackup loves to back up to hard disks, works wonderfully,
like a sherpa. Creates five backup copies a week, the next week it starts
overwriting the eldest. This completely skirts in my opinion all problems
using NTBackup. Why use tape as a DAILY backup solution when more than likely
your client is only going to archive one tape offsite a week? Use a hard
drive for that--faster, more reliable, cheap, and half the headaches.
For archiving offsite I use the Iomega REV drive. Since this is only a weekly
backup, the client doesn't need to buy a truckload of cartridges. You set up
a rotation plan where you always have at least a few REV disks offsite at any
given time, going back however far. These disks are exceptionally durable.
To me the above setup satisfies the KISS rule as best as I have been able to
get it to while being amenable to the average small-business frugal IT budget.
My two cents.
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