Re: Still can't connect to RWW or OWA remotely
- From: "Leon Willard" <leonwill@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:52:05 -0700
Merv, I get 'cannot find server or dns error' on both
https://<PublicIPAddress>/remote and https://<PublicIPAddress>/exchange.
Previously I had opened port 443 (and all the others you listed) in the
Efficient DSL router. I used their command <system addserver 192.168.254.10
TCP [port number]> to open the ports. The only way I knew to test whether
the port was still open, was to try opening it again. It then gives an
error. Is there a way to test whether SBS sees these ports as open or not?
Leon
"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Does the "page cannot be displayed" error appear at the top of the page
with the rest of the page blank? Or does it additionally show "cannot
find server or dns" somewhere on the error page? I'm trying to determine
if port 443 is being blocked.
Can you access OWA externally? (https://<PublicIPAddress>/exchange)
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
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"Leon Willard" <leonwill@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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No, I don't have a 3rd party firewall, and it's a pretty plain vanilla
WinXP Pro laptop. Connected to the network like the other workstations, I
can get email and have Internet access the same as all the others.
As for error messages when I fail to access RWW with the laptop, I don't
get any. All that happens is it times out and then says the 'Page cannot
be displayed'. I don't find any errors or other strange messages in the
SBS event viewer either.
Leon
"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Do you have any 3rd party Firewall software on the laptop?
What error(s) do you get on the laptop (and maybe in the event logs on
the server) when you fail to access RWW with the laptop?
--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
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"Leon Willard" <leonwill@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In trying what Merv suggested below, this is what I
found. --Apparently, the 'Windows Firewall cannot run because another
program . . . " is a false message since I found that Windows Firewall
services were disabled and the external NIC has only TCP/IP enabled.
After that I re-ran CEICW, this time eliminating VPN since it is
unlikely to ever be used. I enabled the firewall, checking only email,
and selecting only OWA, RWW, and Sharepoint Web services. I left the
certificate originally created that points to the WAN IP address.
After that, I tried accessing RWW from my laptop connected to a router
port, thus bypassing the DSL router. No luck, I couldn't connect.
However, I could connect to RWW from several workstations from within
the network.
Here's another peculiarity: During a setup problem with the Adaptec
RAID controller, Adaptec requested that we connect to their website
using the adaptec.com/remote command from out server. I didn't work at
all. However, I could go to any workstation and connect to them just
fine.
This is a very frustrating problem. In all other respects the SBS
server and all internal functions work just fine. But from outside the
network, no connection seems possible. It's as if the built-in firewall
is working too good! -- Any further suggestions will be greatly
appreciated. Thanks.
Leon
"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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- I checked the settings on the external NIC, and when I went to
check bindings I got this error message: "Windows Firewall cannot run
because another program or service is running that might use the
network address translation component (Ipnat.sys)".
This sounds like a Windows Firewall problem. SBS 2003 does not use
Windows Firewall. In fact, it should have been removed during the
normal Integrated install of SBS. Try this:
Start | Control Panel | Administrative Tools | RRAS | rt. click
<yourservername> (local) | Disable Routing and Remote Access
Start | Control Panel | Administrative Tools | Services... assure
that the Routing and Remote Access service is stopped.
Then re-run CEICW, ebanle the firewall, select the services you want,
enter your public WAN IP for the certificate and finsih the rest of
CEICW.
Now try again both checking the bindings on the external NIC (should
only have TCP/IP - not "Client for Microsoft Networks" or File and
Printer Sharing") and accesing RWW from your laptop attached directly
to a port on the router.
--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
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"Leon Willard" <leonwill@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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OK, here's where I am on this problem -- I connected my laptop to the
DSL
router port using the suggested setting and, no, I couldn't RWW in
that way
either. -- Before doing this, I reran CEICW and carefully checked all
the settings to
match the broadband connection, the two NIC firewall, the remote
connection
setup, and the certificate using the public IP.
Along the way I noticed several things that may be relevant:
- I have VPN checked, although users prefer RWW (if I ever get it to
work!).
- I checked the settings on the external NIC, and when I went to
check bindings I got this error message: "Windows Firewall cannot run
because another program or service is running that might use the
network address translation component (Ipnat.sys)".
- Only one workstation is a domain member, and it was joined manually
(its ipconfig /all is shown below). The other workstations are still
peer-to-peer, although they can access RWW and Exchange just fine. I
had expected to join the other workstations once SBS was completely
set up.
Leon
Workstation IPconfig /all
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Albert>cd\
C:\>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : meridian-cadd5
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Meridian.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Meridian.local
Meridian.local
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Meridian.local
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE
Network Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-07-E9-D9-F3-54
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, September 22, 2006
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SBS2003 IPconfig /all
Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
(C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>cd\
C:\>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : meridian-2003
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Meridian.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Meridian.local
Ethernet adapter Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-76-32-45-E5
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.10
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100+ Server
Adapter (PILA847
0B)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-D0-B7-85-C7-5B
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
C:\>
"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Leon,
Could you please post an ipconfig /all for the SBS server and
for a
workstation?
When you ran CEICW, did you select "a direct broadband connection",
enable
the firewall, select the services, select the Web Services, enter
your
Public IP address for the web server certificate, then finish the
rest of
CEICW?
Also, try taking the router out of the equation...
Attach a laptop that's configured for a workgroup (not a domain) to
a free
port on the router. Give it a static IP address of 192.169.254.x, a
Subnet Mask of 255.255.255.0, and a Default Gateway of
192.169.254.10 (the
LAN IP address of the router). Then try to RWW into the SBS server.
If
you're successful, the router configuration is the problem. If not,
you're SBS server config (or the external NIC) is having a problem.
--
Merv Porter [SBS-MWP]
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"Leon Willard" <leonwill@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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To update my problem from what is stated below: I followed the
advice I
received from serveral people on this newsgroup, and opened ports
443,
444, 4125, 1723 and 3389 in our Efficient 5861 DSL router, and AT&T
verified port 25 was open.
But I still couldn't connect remotely using
https://publicIP/remote. So I
called Efficient tech support to have them verify that the ports I
specified were actually opened. Their tech told me he couldn't
telnet
into our router through our public IP to check. And he couldn't
ping that
IP either. He asked what method I used to forward the ports using
telnet
(it's <system addserver [private IP for server] tcp port number>
which I
took from their app note), and he said I was doing it correctly.
After
that I reran CEICW to verify all Web services were checked.
But I still could not connect remotely. So it would seem that I've
got
something cofigured wrong, or something not yet configured. Also,
Adaptec
wanted to connect to our SBS to update some drivers, but were not
able to
connect. They asked me to connect to their site remotely from our
server,
and I wasn't able to do so. However, I was able to connect to their
site
from a workstation on our network. So it seems our SBS is still the
source of the connection problems. And once again, I'll appreciate
your
help on this. Thanks.
Leon
I recently completed an installation of SBS2003 Standard without
ISA
using
the two NIC configuration. At the front of the external 'WAN' NIC
is a
DSL
router set up with a static IP from our ISP. This external NIC IP
address
is
192.169.254.10 Our ISP (SBC) also provides us five additional
static IP
addresses which we don't use. The internal (LAN) NIC is using IP
192.168.16.2. We also have a website hosted by SBC, but we don't
use it's
registered name or IP address for our SBS2003 network
configuration.
(except
as mentioned below for a certificate).
From inside the network, all users can access RWW and Exchange just
fine.
And the rest of the network and email works fine for all users
also. Our
problem is that we cannot connect to RWW or OWA from the Internet.
When I
try to connect using https://certificate/remote I always get the
"Cannot
find server or DNS Error" message.
I have run CEICW a bunch of times and haven't gotten any errors. I
have
assumed that the problem is the certificate I am generating. I have
tried
using server.registered website name, but it doesn't work. I have
also
used
the DSL public side IP address/remote, and that doesn't work
either. It's
pretty clear that I don't know how to fix this problem, and any
help will
be
greately appreciated. Thanks.
.
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