Re: ISP port filtering

I own my own business, so I know what their real intentions are. It
isn't their place to tell me what I can and can not do. What's next?
Are they going to limit the language that I can view, unless I pay a
higher, commercial fee? See my point? In fact, it's going to hurt
business.

I don't care what their TOS says, just because someone puts it in their
terms doesn't make it legal. You can't superceed the law or
constitution by putting something in your TOS.

Like I said earlier, this is not a means of controlling bandwith, or
spam, or servers. This is a means for them to make money from something
that is built into the protocol of tcp/ip.

Blenky wrote:
Sorry but I fail to see that logic. These companies aren't selling the
"Internet", they are selling "Internet Access", and thus it can be
defined as they see fit. They are putting in place the connection
between what you see as the "Internet" and your home. While there may
be MANY people agree it sucks to have to pay more to allow you to run
services, it is the only controllable way for ISPs to keep control of
bandwidth requirements. If it was a complete free for all, then they
would simply have to charge more for the basic account to begin with.

In your example of going to a dealer, would you not simply go to
another dealer who didn't disable the brakes?! Sounds to me like you
want everything for nothing.


talkinggoat wrote:
You can't exactly compare this to buying a car, but I guess the closest
thing that I could match this to would be if Ford built cars with
brakes and the dealer told you that if you wanted brakes included in
your new car, you would have to pay 20% more. The car comes with the
brakes, from the factory, just like the Internet inherently comes with
these ports, it's the dealer that removes them. I don't believe that
this to be legal and I think it to be some form of extortion.

Blenky wrote:
Just curious, how is it that you propose to do this? When you purchase
a product you agree to their terms and conditions. Would this be any
different than me trying to tell Ford how to make a car? If I don't
like the product, I find another solution. I know there port filtering
is a severe pain, but it's their product, I don't see how we can
dictate what they provide for us other than simply not purchasing their
product. If enough people did that, maybe they would add a level of
service that wouldn't block those ports (which btw, is why they are
blocking it, as specifically in their terms they ussually prohibit
running any of the services that would require those ports).


talkinggoat wrote:
If there is anyone out there that would be interested in helping to
find a way to make manditory ISP port filtering illegal, and to be able
to force your ISP to open the ports that you want, (25, 80, 21) please
send me mail at johnmclaren_99@xxxxxxxxx

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