Re: Unsure of what to do...

Another learning session for me from the SBS NG!! Thanks Charlie......that
explains it!! I guess when building the hardware and your given a choice to
add a floppy/or not an uneducated person would assume that you would be fine
without one if you had to do a re-install in a case like we have been
discussing.

Live and learn!

Jeff

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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because it's a floppy. <g>

Seriously, the code that is available to Windows at this point is very,
very limited. It doesn't recognize USB at all. But at that point the BIOS
is telling it that there's a floppy drive available. (It's generally
called something like "support legacy USB devices" or "Legacy support" in
the BIOS under the USB section.)

This whole problem goes away with Vista/Longhorn, where they completely
rewrote the installation and boot time loader. But until then, we get to
live with it.


--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


Jeff Teel wrote:
I'll have to invest in one of those (USB floppy) to keep handy. How is
it
that a USB floppy will work for this job but a USB key will not?

Thanks
Jeff

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I wouldn't try to do it that way - I'm not sure what the result would
be.
You should be able to extract the necessary drivers from the CD, or
download them from the Dell site. As for not having a 3.5" drive - an
inexpensive USB floppy drive will do just fine. I keep one in the server
room, in a ziplock bag, for just such uses.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


Jeff Teel wrote:
No... I don't have any drivers on a floppy. They are all on the Dell
restore CD that came with the system and I have no 3 1/2 drive either.
When you mentioned in your earlier post that " (USB key and/or CD will
NOT do!) for installing drivers I wondered how everything worked when I
did the restore on my system if using the CD drive would not work. I'm
a little slow with this I guess! Could I start the install with the
Dell restore CD (without SP1) that also contains the RAID drivers then
finish with the new media that has SP1?

Thanks
Jeff

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Well, I assume you would have to have the drivers on floppy, yes. Only
the RAID drivers are an issue - all others you can load once the core
OS is loaded - there's a natural stopping point when Windows is
loaded, but none of the SBS components have been loaded yet. You can
pause there and load the drivers you'll need later, such as network
drivers if your NIC needs a driver, for example. Then you restart the
install and finish. --
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64

"Jeff Teel" <jdteel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks for replying Charlie
I thought that might be the case but wasn't sure. This brings up
another question though. With the upgrade of my OS to SP1 (I have
squeezed some SP1 a set of full install media out of Dell) if I use
the SP1 media to do a re-install will those drivers be on the disks
or is the media missing the drivers for RAID ect....? On the new
media SBS SP1 disks that they shipped there is no mention of Dell.
They are from Microsoft Licensing. Am I assuming correctly that if I
have to do a complete re-install and use the SP1 media I will have to
get the drivers loaded from a drive other than the CD?

Thanks
Jeff

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message news:%23mCqIoYzGHA.4896@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If you flattened the machine, there's no drivers on it. You boot
from
the CD, and add the drivers. On Dell servers, if SBS is a supported
OS,
they are supposed to streamline the drivers onto the SBS CD so that
you
don't need a floppy.

An external USB floppy is normally fine, by the way. I keep one
here,
sitting in the server room, in a ziplock bag on the back shelf. Just
in
case.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64

"Jeff Teel" <jdteel@RMoveThis sugardog.com> wrote in message
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Hi Charlie

I have a question that relates to loading RAID drivers that I have
been wondering about. Several months ago I flattened my server and
started over with a clean install. I'll try not to leave out any
thing but it's been a while since I've done this!! Before I did
the
new install though I made the C:\ partition larger using the
install
CD. Would the drivers for RAID still be on the system from the
original install or are they taken off when the partition was
increased? I ask because I don't have a floppy drive and there
would be no other way (except an external floppy) but to use the CD
drive to get that done if I could not use it. It is a Dell Server
that had SBS preinstalled. I can't remember for sure if I had to
do any driver installs before I put the OS on.

Thanks
Jeff

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message news:uSFNtPVzGHA.1292@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
RAID controllers require that drivers be loaded during the initial
installation process. You need the drivers on a floppy (USB key
and/or CD will NOT do!) When the blue installation screen first
comes up, you'll see "Press F6 to load storage drivers" at the
bottom of the screen. Press F6 and then follow the prompts to load
your RAID/SATA drivers.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


tqc4869 wrote:
Okay, I've been able to get the raid to show up on disk
management
after
booting up with the old drive.. Should I keep the old drive and
somehow
move the data to the raid partition?




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