Re: New Install of SBS 2003?
- From: Dan <Dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:55:01 -0700
Thanks again. How about another question and then I'll put this thread to
rest. What if (becuase of cost issues) I went with a raid 1 on two drives
with a back up drive, then upgraded as I needed to? Would it be easy enough
to add drives or would I need some major reworking to get to a raid set up as
you described?
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
In news:B22A9530-2362-4CC8-9415-2E8F01D621CC@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,.
Dan <Dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> typed:
Thanks again for the input. I talked with the pastor today and he
and I agreed we may be better off just looking at a new machine
altogether. 4 year old technology is pusing our luck we think. Once
I figure in the cost of at least 3 hard drives and adding ram and
then looking at the software, it may be cheaper to upgrade totally
with a faster processor, a second NIC and all the storage I would
need, plus the software installed.
You're likely right.
(I'd probably build the machine
localy and have them install the sofware at my local computer guru's
shop after I buy it with the charity license.)
Make sure your local computer guru has a lot of SBs-specific experience.
Really. When I first started working with SBS I botched several test
installs although I had years of experience with the enterprise products.
Your advice is very
helpful and will be taken to heart.
I hope so :-)
We particularly need to look at
the redundancy issue.
Now for my ignorance - what do tou mean by a hot spare? I thionk I
know but I don't want to assume. I do alot of computer work at
church but I'm still a novice in some areas. (Hence getting my local
guru to assist so I have some help in the set-up process.)
A hotspare is a drive that can kick in and take over when a drive fails. It
should be a global hotspare so it can do this regardless of which RAID array
has the failure. In my previous example of a single RAID5 array - you lose
one drive? RAID keeps running in degraded mode. You lose two drives? You're
OK if you have a hotspare.
I like hotswap drives, too. I do believe in overengineering ones' server.
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
In news:2BAF2647-9207-411B-97B1-4D7D661514FF@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Dan <Dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> typed:
Thanks for the input. We have been using it as a central computer
on our peer to peer. At one point I ran netware6 with it and it did
okay -
It might do "okay" now, but it isn't ideal, and since you have the
chance to think about this before proceeding with an install on
hardware that may not stand the test of time, it's a good idea...
software was problematic for us though so we went peer to
peer. I have thought we need to have at least a mirror drive on the
system if we don't use RAID.
Mirroring is technically a form of RAID, but doesn't provide enough
redundancy in my book.
Any other suggestions? I may just need
to replace the whole box and start fresh.
Can you add in a RAID controller and get SCSI drives? even SATA?
For such a small network you could get away with a single RAID5
array with a hotspare, which would require a minimum of 4 drives.
There are other, more elaborate options out there, depending on your
budget.
I'd also want 1GB RAM in the server, minimum. RAM is cheap enough.
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
In news:5DCB29E2-FCDF-4678-B359-CD5194E819C0@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Dan <Dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> typed:
Here is the updated information on our specs.
We have a server tower designed to hold multiple harddisks.
However I only have one plain old everyday Standard IDE ATA disk
on the machine for now.
That's not a good idea. I wouldn't use this box as is for a server.
It is a 60 gig drive. There is also the obligatory
floppy drive and CD ROM. The RAM for the machine is at 512 MB.
The processor is an Intel Pentium4 at
1.7 ghz.
My Router is currently a Linksys BEFSR41 with 4 ports. Attached
to that I have another Linksys Switch - it is the 16 port EZXS16W
switch. Our internet connection is through a broadband with the
local cable company.
Since you don't have a robust firewall, either get one - or use ISA
in conjunction with your Linksys gateway appliance (it isn't a
firewall).
The computer is approximately 4 years old so we may be needing to
think of replacement anyway (atleast for the drives). Any advice
on what to do or if this system will work for SBS?
I wouldn't. Don't get people used to relying on a centralized
server that can't handle the load. You have no disk redundancy and
that's likely going to come back to bite you in the ___. If they
can't afford good server hardware, with hardware (ideally SCSI,
although SATA has been catching up) RAID and a hotspare, I
wouldn't put a server in at all.
Wow - I appreciate the help. The response has been great!
"Dan" wrote:
I currently managethe computers in our church. We have been
using peer-to-peer networking after a horrible experience with
another company's product. The problem is 9 computers talking
on a peer-to-peer is bogging down the system (to say the least).
I am considering going to SBS 2003 (possibly premium). My
question is - will the server I put it on, curently running
Windows XP Pro, be completely overwritten when I install the
software? (The server is designed as a server but when I dumped
the software aforementioned, I just installed XP pro.) The
computer I want to use meets all requirements. It only has one
network card - do I need to installl another and run the high
speed internet through it instead of the open network?
One last question - will my current configuaton of router/switch
by linksys be sufficient? Thanks Dan Mefford, Associate Pastor
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