Re: SMTP or ISP Hosted email ?

True. But my experience with Bellsouth DSL is that their business and
residential dhcp addresses are in the same range.

I've had them changed, I had to jump through hoops etc.

The point of my response was that you should let your customer know
that these things could happen. The pro's for hosting your own email
clearly out-weigh the cons.

I'm all for hosting my own email. Associates in my office disagree and
think it's bad practice when I do configure customers that way, and
I've had this arugment with them many many many times.

Anyways, like I said. The pro's are greater then the cons, and if they
can do it. Do it!

~Gary

Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP) wrote:
For probably 5.00 a month or less, there are services available which will be your "backup" MX record/mail store and forward if you go down.
It sounds like the situations you describe is where customers are using "residential" cable or dsl instead of Business accounts

I have Charter business cable with 4 static IPs - 3mb down/384 up 79.00 a month. I can go to 5mb for 125.00. If I go down, its usually very late at night and if I were to have mail sent to me during that time, the sender simply gets a warning...of a delay and that it will keep trying for a couple days.

But if it were worse I'd get a MX Backup service. My business domain does not get spammed

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"groberts" <wangel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1155133289.686463.15530@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I to have had this discussion with people in my office. While I tend
to agree that the pros outway the cons, there is one factor, that one
associate always reminds me of.

Most small businesses use cable or DSL connections to the net. While
they are normally "always" on, they do have outages. These outages
result in the loss of email. If an ISP hosts the email, they hardley
ever go down.

Also, I've recently come across "spam" issues. Most cable or dsl lines
have dhcp assigned ips (Even if static, they are still dhcp, and the
contracts state that the company reserves the right to change the ip if
need be). Most of the bigger isps (aol, verizon etc) block whole
ranges of ips. For example, if a customer of mine is on bellsouth,
their ip resolves to something like DHCP.64.xx.xx.xx.bellsouth.net.
Aol usually blocks the entire range. It's a real pain.

Like I said, I believe the pros outway the cons, but it's vital you let
your customer know that these things can happen.

~Gary

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For probably 5.00 a month or less, there are
services available which will be your "backup" MX record/mail store and forward
if you go down.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It sounds like the situations you describe is where
customers are using "residential" cable or dsl instead of Business
accounts</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have Charter business cable with 4 static IPs -
3mb down/384 up&nbsp; 79.00 a month.&nbsp; I can go to 5mb for
125.00.&nbsp;&nbsp; If I go down, its usually very late at night and if I were
to have mail sent to me during that time, the sender simply gets a warning...of
a delay and that it will keep trying for a couple days.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But if it were worse I'd get a MX Backup
service.&nbsp;&nbsp; My business domain does not get spammed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Cris Hanna
[SBS-MVP]<BR>--------------------------------------<BR>Please do not respond
directly to me, but only post in the newsgroup so all can take advantage</DIV>
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wrote in message <A
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to have had this discussion with people in my office.&nbsp;&nbsp; While I
tend<BR>to agree that the pros outway the cons, there is one factor, that
one<BR>associate always reminds me of.<BR><BR>Most small businesses use cable
or DSL connections to the net.&nbsp; While<BR>they are normally "always" on,
they do have outages.&nbsp; These outages<BR>result in the loss of
email.&nbsp; If an ISP hosts the email, they hardley<BR>ever go
down.<BR><BR>Also, I've recently come across "spam" issues.&nbsp; Most cable
or dsl lines<BR>have dhcp assigned ips (Even if static, they are still dhcp,
and the<BR>contracts state that the company reserves the right to change the
ip if<BR>need be).&nbsp; Most of the bigger isps (aol, verizon etc) block
whole<BR>ranges of ips.&nbsp;&nbsp; For example, if a customer of mine is on
bellsouth,<BR>their ip resolves to something like
DHCP.64.xx.xx.xx.bellsouth.net.<BR>Aol usually blocks the entire
range.&nbsp;&nbsp; It's a real pain.<BR><BR>Like I said, I believe the pros
outway the cons, but it's vital you let<BR>your customer know that these
things can happen.&nbsp; <BR><BR>~Gary<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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