Re: Virtual server virtual PC

Thanks for all the posts, This training machine is for my own use. My
question is, the installations. Do I install XP Pro first then virtual server
or virtual pc?

"Buddy Greenshield" wrote:

I'm using VMWare Server for my test environment. It's also free, which is
nice. My VMWare Host machines are not all too powerful of choc full of ram,
so I run two or three hosts with multiple NICS in them. The first NIC is
bound to my physical SBS network. The Virtual SBS external NIC is bridged to
this NIC and thus gets a "WAN" IP from my physical SBS Lan network. The
virtual LAN is set to VMNet2 and bound to the 2nd NIC on the VMWare Host
machine. With this setup, I can have several Virtual machines running on
more than one VMWare Host computers, all connected together via the VMNet2
NICS. I have a switch connecting the VMNet2 network bound NICs on the Host
machines together and can even connect physical machines into the virtual
LAN this way. I use my physical SBS server's DNS to simulate the Internet
and create the various DNS zones needed to send and receive email into the
VM-SBS, test RWW, OWA, etc. Works great on cheap old white box hardware with
BIG hard drives.

Buddy G.

"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Build a box. The specs will depend on its purpose. If I was training on
SBS I would want to be able to run SBS, maybe another server, and probably
a couple of workstations simultaneously in the virtual environment.

A host capable of this requires a minimum 2GB RAM, 4 would be better and
greater than 4 better yet. If we settle at 4GB you can use either XP or a
server OS for the host, 32bit or 64bit, choice is yours. Throwing this
together for business purposes I'd like 8GB, 64bit, and a server OS.

Some of these virtual machines are going to have significant sized virtual
HDDs. To hold them I want fast HDD IO. Let's use a pair of 250GB SATA II
drives on a hardware SATA II RAID controller. Though RAID0 would be
fastest I want safety, RAID1.

Choice of virtual environment depends on facility. VPC has more
comprehensive emulation than VS at the cost of a larger 'footprint'. Heck,
both are available for free, download them and compare the features. I'd
be more likely to use VS in a training environment, requiring a fairly
basic hardware emulation. VS also has the advantage that it offers remote
connection to the virtual machines, meaning I can have a server in a
server room away from the classroom, a trainee sits at an XP workstation
and operates PC's emulated on the server. Take this scenario further and
you have a group of trainees trying to run several emulated machines each
on a server, probably not a good idea, we're talking serious hardware for
a server to handle this.

To get an overall view of the operation of either system
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/evaluation/vpcdemo.html

I take it you can install an OS to the hardware, and install a program (VS
or VPC) onto that OS. There's nothing particularly special about either,
they are just programs.

One area which may need explanation is 'virtual networking'. Either system
has the ability to connect the virtual machine to your real network or
possibly several emulated switches. To go any further with this we first
need to define the environment, I'm not going into all the possibilities,
it would take days. In general I find it handy for the host machine to
have two network cards, 1 card connects to my internal LAN, the other to a
routed internet connection, this allows me to create virtual machines
which either access the internal LAN or have direct access to the
internet, or both.

Though your question involves SBS it's really about VPC/VS. The discussion
should be moved to an appropriate group, come back here when you're ready
to install SBS into the VM.

"Magnetoram" <Magnetoram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi,
I want to build a box for training purposes. I have VS 2005 and VPC 2004.
I have SBSA 2K3 and WXP Pro to use as OS's. I need instructions to
install
all this on my training box. I looked at MS VS site but could not find
helpful instructions.
Thank You







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