Re: SBSR2 Install Sequence... can you upgrade R2 from SE to PE?

Ah.

Yesterday I had both WS2k3 T/S running as well as the WXP x86 and x64. I
also had multiple remote sessions connected to each T/S and speed was ok for
me. And I was able to utilize my application...imagine that eh!

Anyways, read on...

Flipped my R2 box from SE to PE this morning and encountered some anomalies.
Enough to make me reconsider VMware for now. Seems that ISA and VMware don't
play nice together. Couldn't locally connect to \\companyweb on any box on
the network; I also couldn't connect to RWW remotely and T/S in . There were
some other issues as well. I found that to be strange; I'm sure there are
fixes for this but I don't need them today... so we'll leave that for
another time. Uninstalling VMware fixed me up.

So once again this MS bigot is back to pure MS stuff... <VBG>... and after
singing those mighty praises for VMware... imagine that eh!

But my proof of principle has been proven and is correct. And I found out
that SBS R2 PE with ISA is nice and secure but doesn't like VMware.

Regards.



"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You certainly _can_ run SBS in a VM, and I have for testing purposes. But
I'm not sure I'd choose to for a production server. And I'd probably want
a second core on that CPU.

Before you spend money on more RAM, make sure your mobo will properly
recognize it. Many will lose most of the range between 3 and 4 GB due to
PCI BIOS reservations.


--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


Gary J. Dikkema wrote:
Hehehe!

Actually Charlie, I thought to do virtualization properly one should boot
off a R2 64 bit box. In my case, the MS MAP only contains WXP X64 so I
may
opt for that and apply SP2 to it. I find 64 bit OSs to be more robust.

So far I haven't got too much feedback to doing it this way. But this
gets
me ready for Cougar IMO... <VBG>...

Then I thought I'd install VM Server - it's ALSO free - and load SBS2k3
on
it. And then load WS2k3 SE R2 and apply SP2 to it. Then I'd add an x64
WXP
box to the mix and apply SP2 to it as well, much as I have done here
already.

Anyways, my hardware is MSI AMD64 Single Core with 3 GBs of ram and a
fast
SATA drive. MAybe I'll add the last gig to it and another SATA drive.

Anyways, in case you're wondering WHY both VM Ware and VS
virtualization... well sir, it got down to having some issues with a USB
bar code scanner that should have been recognized as a 'wedge'
keyboard... one gave me fits regardless of virtual host and one worked
flawlessly but I didin't think of trying it until AFTER I exhuasted
everything else first...such as VM Ware as it runs USB natively. The bar
code scanner was plugged into my laptop which would connect remotely and
run a T/S session.
For those wondering, my custom MS Access app works great on either
virtual
host... unreal how well this worked... SBS R2 SE hosting two terminal
servers each hosting 2 guests... a WS2k3 and WXP and yet the systems were
all stable and rock solid and my custom app ran faster in a terminal
server environment than locally on my 1 GB P4 laptop... which I found
hard to bvelieve.

So... we'll see when I do this. First I have to move this SBS R2 from SE
to PE and see how much 'fun' that brings me.

Thanks again Charlie, as always, I appreciate your feedback. Soon I'll be
reading your R2 book. <VBG>

Regards!



"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You're likely to be rebooting your box a lot. ;)

The poor OS gets starved, at some point. There's more than one reason
we're all moving to x64 for the next release. ;)

Now, that being said, I have a "customer" (Habitat for Humanity, so I
get
paid in intangibles) that I run a VS seesion on to provide two XP client
machines that they can RWW into. Works just fine. From some initial
monitoring, I figure it could handle at least one more, and probably two
more clients before I was pushing up against it.

I would _not_ attempt to run both VMWare and VS. Pick one and stick with
it. If you need to run the other, put it on a different box.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


Gary J. Dikkema wrote:
Charlie,

Have you done anything with virtualization?

My SBS R2 box is also my virtual server host, using both VS2005 R2 SP1
and
VM Ware Server... so I have 2 terminal servers running on top of the R2
box as well as two WXP clients... an x86 and an x64 version. One of the
benefits of running VM Ware is the ability to host 64 bit OS's on top
of
a 32 bit host. <VBG>

Enough of the preamble... I just wondered what sort of issues I might
encounter once I set up ISA, ie: flip R2 SE to PE.

Anyone with input can chime in.

Thanks!



"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Yes, that should work fine. I did that at least once during the beta
(I
had the workgroup bits early.)

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


Gary J. Dikkema wrote:
Thought I'd pick your brain Charlie and get the quick heads up on
this. I clean installed my R2 copy and added the R2 bits *PRIOR* to
bringing
the
machine to Premium Edition. This is a test box as the R2 Beta didn't
have all of the final stuff in it... and I wanted to see the final
pieces in action.

I should be able to bring this box to Premium by just installing the
premium programs that I want to... no?




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