Re: KB917537 Failing

Hi Keven,

Were or are those servers set to automatically download and install the
updates?

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"Keven" <Keven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> schreef in bericht
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Wow.. didn't expect this sort of feedback. No, there is no common third
party software between the machines, and really no hardware or primary
setup
commonality on them either. I have tested one of them on manual update
this
afternoon and it seems to have successfully applied the patch and will be
attempting it on others as well to see if it works across the board with
them
that way.


"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:

Surely this is not a common or widespread issue if we're just hearing
about
it from one person, four days after the patch released. I just
installed it
without issue on my SBS and two member servers. Of greater relevance is
the
fact that Susan Bradley monitors for issues with Microsoft patches in
any
forum where such an issue would be presented, and she has not mentioned
a
word about this one. Not to say that MS has not had widespread issues
caused by patches, but in this case I would be very surprised to find
that
this patch was causing more than a few isolated problems. I wonder if
Keven's servers are all running a 3rd party app or something else that
caused all three to exhibit the same failure.

The consensus among the MVPs is that SBS'ers should reboot after patch
installations, whether the specific patches require a reboot or not.
SBS,
with multiple server apps running on the same box, and with dependencies
and
interactions not found on a plain-vanilla WS03 box, seems to benefit
from a
reboot in cases where it would otherwise not be necessary.

I'm perfectly happy to have the 'nix people laughing at me. I just hope
that when they laugh at me for a 15 minute reboot once a month, there's
a
chuckle in there for RWW, and another one for all the SBS'ers who get a
mature server OS, an enterprise-class messaging system, and automated
network-wide patching for six hundred bucks.




"CO-DBA-SC-EL" <dx6490@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Another improperly tested patch. Shame on Microsoft for not even
having an
updated bulletin on this flaw after 3 days. It's not like they have
not
heard about it. After Googling the topic it looks like the solution is
to
stop IIS before starting the installation. A number of people seem to
have
had success with it. In the command window type

tasklist /fi "modules eq asp.dll"

I just dit it on my SBS2003 standard, manually went back to the
Windows
Update site, and did the install. I got the "success" notice. If you
don't want to take the chance, wait until the patch is patched.

My other gripe is why these updates require restarting the server
(even if
they fail completely!). Which also means rechecking everything to
verify
that it started OK, etc. It's pretty pathetic to have to restart the
server a couple of times every month at update time while the 'nix
people
are laughing at us. The "hot patching" alternative that requires
writing
down the patch numbers and typing in an arcane command line is, shall
we
say, amateurish. To add insult to injury, if you hit the "Restart"
button
in the patch success dialog box rather than clicking "Later" and doing
the
restart manually, it fails to make the appropriate entry in the system
log
to document the reason for shutdown. So much for integration.

C_O

"Keven" <Keven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Multiple SBS03 Premium installs that I manage have all been doing
their
overnight updates and failing KB917537 for the last three nights in a
row.
I'm shocked that there isn't a litter of information about this
already
in
here as I had assumed this would be a common problem.. anyone have
any
info
for me beyond the one reply that someone did a baseline security
analysis
and
it seemed to work? I'm hoping there is a logical answer as to what
is
going
on here to fix this as I have multiple servers that I need to apply
solution
for.






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