Re: Exchange Weird Issue

Nope - it's only going to user b, she forwards it to the intended recipient.
No rules or anything setup - it's happening once every while (while being
maybe 1-2 weeks) - and it can be in the middle of a conversation, i.e. the
two people who are meant to be communicating have been emailing back and
forth all day on the same email... then one just ends up at the other users
box?!


"Al Williams" <donotreplydirect@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uqQqZSFoGHA.5096@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Is the intended recipient also receiving the email? I would look for user
issues (using bcc by mistake) and/or Outlook rules (maybe they set up
forwarding for a vacation) that are doing this.

--
Allan Williams



"ChickenMan" <spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks for your reply :

Emails are from different external users, that aren't spam as they're
involved in a conversation with the intended recipient.
No - not NDR's but the actual message that was intended for the person
they were sending too. I.e. the user it's addressed to (A) is in the to
box, but person B is getting the message.
Just one user having the problem, and whenever it happens it goes through
to the same user each time.
So I don't think it's a spam or open relay issue...

Further ideas?

Thanks
Marek


"chace zhang" <v-chacez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi,


Thank you for posting here.

According to your description, I understand one of your internal users
receives a lot of unknown recipients' emails. If I have misunderstood
your
concern, please do not hesitate to let me know.

In order to clarify your issue, please help me to gather following info:
Are these emails from internal user or external user?
Are these emails from specific domain or random domain?
Are these emails NDR reports?
Does this issue occur on specific user or all users?

Based on my experience, this issue can be any or a combined of the
following situations:
1. You under spam attack
2. Your server is open relaying emails.
3. Your server are under RNDR attack.


I would like to suggest you try the following suggestions:

Suggestion 1:
Add a name to the Blocked Senders List on the Outlook 2003 client:
1. Open Outlook.
2. On the Tools menu, click Options.
3. Click Junk E-mail.
4. Click the Blocked Senders tab.
5. Click Add.
6. In the Enter an e-mail address or Internet domain name to be added to
the list box, enter the name or address you want added, and then click
OK.
For example, you can add @*.cn
Note: You can remove and re-add it to check.
7. Repeat steps 4 and 5 for each name or address that you want to add.

NOTE: Please make sure the above lists do not listed in the Safe Sender.

Suggestion 2:

A. Disable the Guest account in your SBS 2003 server and enable Stronge
Password Protection. You can also have your users change their
passwords.
Everytime when you run CEICW you will be asked for enabling password
policies after it ends. I suggest you enable it. You can also do that in
Server Management\Users->Configure Password Policies. For more
information,
see:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/technologies/
security/bpactlck.mspx

B. Block open relay and clean up the SMTP queues by referring to the
following KB article:

324958 How To Block Open SMTP Relaying and Clean Up Exchange Server SMTP
Queues
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=324958


If you find many emails are NDR emails generated by postmaster or
administrator of your server, your server should be under Reverse DNS
Attack. Nowadays spammers have a new means to avoid filters built into
many
systems. They take advantage of a mail systems sending of a non-delivery
report (NDR) when a message cannot be delivered as addressed and returns
the original contents. Since this follows the RFC standard, most all
mail
servers will function this way.This is what is called a "Reverse NDR
attack" (RNDR). This form of attack is becoming increasingly widespread.
Some users get it so badly that over 33% of their Internet messages are
attributed to this type of spam.The end result is the spammer has
attained
a new form of mail relaying. Your server''s resources are being stolen
to
deliver spam. You may abserve the following symptoms:

1. Exchange mailboxes are receiving NDR's for mail that they did not
send.

2. Non delivery reports are filling the SMTP queues. Messages appear
from
Postmaster or "<>".

3. There are hundreds (sometimes thousands) of SMTP queues where there
are
normally just a few.

How does a "Reverse NDR" attack work?

Step 1 Spam email is created with the intended spam victim''s address in
the sender field and a random, fictitious recipient, at your domain, in
the
To: field.

Step 2 Your mail server cannot deliver the message and sends an NDR
email
back to what appears to be the sender of the original message, the spam
victim.

Step 3 The return email carries the non-delivery report and possibly the
original spam message. Thinking it is email they sent, the spam victim
reads the NDR and the included spam.

What are the symptoms of a RNDR attack?

1. Sluggish email delivery

2. Outbound queues full of non-delivery notices

3. Excessive admin time to clear outbound queues

If you are experiencing any of the above, chances are good your mail
server
is under attack.

To stop the RNDR from happening, you can try either of the following
solutions based on your configuration:

If you use SMTP to receive inbound emails
-------------------------------------
- Configure Recipient Filtering

When you enable recipient filtering on the SMTP virtual server, e-mail
messages that are received from anyone on the recipient filter are not
accepted. Recipient filtering is set globally, but you enable it on a
per-Virtual Server basis on each SMTP virtual server.

- Create a recipient filter:

1. Click "Start", point to "Programs", point to "Microsoft Exchange",
and
then click "System Manager".

2. Expand "Global Settings", right-click "Message Delivery", and then
click
"Properties".

3. Click the "Recipient Filtering" tab, and then click the checkbox at
the
bottom (Filter recipients who are not in the directory).

4. Specify any additional filter options that you want to configure,
Select Apply, and then click "OK".

To enable recipient filtering on the SMTP virtual server:

1. Click "Start", point to "Programs", point to "Microsoft Exchange",
and
then click "System Manager".

2. Expand "Servers", expand "<ServerName>", and then expand "Protocols".

3. Expand "SMTP", right-click "Default SMTP Virtual Server", and then
click
"Properties".

4. Click the "General" tab, and then click "Advanced".

5. In the "Address" list, click the IP address where you want to apply
the
recipient filter, and then click "Edit".

6. Click to select the "Apply Recipient Filter" check box, click "OK",
and
then click "OK".

Note: Recipient filter rules apply only to anonymous connections.
Authenticated users and Exchange servers bypass these validations.

If you are using POP3 Connector to receive inbound emails
-------------------------------------
In this scenario, we cannot use recipient filters to stop the attack.
You
will have to contact your ISP to help you stop the NDR attack. Or you
will
need to disable the NDR feature. To do so, please refer to the following
KB
article:

294757 How to control non-delivery reports when you use Exchange 2000 or
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=294757

We can also use third party tools to block NDR attack:

http://www.cmsconnect.com/Praetor/WebHelp/zAppendix_B_-_Message_tests/Thwart
ing_reverse_NDR_attacks.htm

http://www.mapilab.com/exchange/mail_guard/

Suggestion 3:

You can also install third party anti-spam and antivirus software
however
you should make sure they are fully compatible with Windows Server 2003
and
Exchange Server 2003. Otherwise they may cause instability to the
server.
If you install antivirus software, you should exclude the SYSVOL and
Exchange installation folder exchsrvr from being scanned. For more
information, see:

823166 Overview of Exchange Server 2003 and antivirus software
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=823166

822158 Virus Scanning Recommendations on a Windows 2000 Domain
Controller
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=822158

NOTE: This response contains a reference to a third party World Wide Web
site. Microsoft is providing this information as a convenience to you.
Microsoft does not control these sites and has not tested any software
or
information found on these sites; therefore, Microsoft cannot make any
representations regarding the quality, safety, or suitability of any
software or information found there. There are inherent dangers in the
use
of any software found on the Internet, and Microsoft cautions you to
make
sure that you completely understand the risk before retrieving any
software
from the Internet.


Hope this helps.If you have other concerns on this issue, please feel
free
to let me know.

Have a nice day!


Best Regards,

Chace Zhang (MSFT)

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and
| some of the time it's in the middle of a conversation (i.e. had been
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