Re: Clean SBS2003 install

Yes, I am interested and it sounds like what I need except that we are not
purchasing new hardware.
The clean install of SBS2K3 needs to be on the existing SBS2K box. Does the
swing migration cover this and how much downtime is there? Can the network
continue to function while i bring down the existing SBS2K box and do a
clean install of SBS2K3 on it?

TR

"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Yes, Swing It! is a process described by Jeff at www.sbsmigration.com. It
is, basically, a defined process of using MS KB's to satisfy several
things.

You wish to move from SBS 2000 to SBS 2003. Not for normal reasons (ie.
because we don't like to) but due to problems with the existing
installation you would prefer NOT to upgrade the current system directly,
a 'clean' installation is considered desirable. Yes?

In the process of replacing this 'dodgy old server' with a new one, you
'do not want to lose the desktops, settings, and profiles for all users.',
Yes?

During the process you do not wish to switch:
2 member W2K Server boxes running various proprietary applications
1 member W2K Server box running in Terminal Server Application mode
1 member W2K3 Enteprise Box running a propietary database and web
application
to a workgroup and then into the newly created AD. right?

You'd also like to avoid having to touch 15 workstations, swinging them to
workgroup and back to the newly created AD. right?

I'm guessing that you would also like to maintain both the same primary
server name and AD DNS & NETBIOS domain names. right?

and you'd like to minimise downtime through the whole procedure. right?

www.sbsmigration.com and the Swing It! procedure allow you to accomplish
all of this. As well as the not easily replicated procedure (which
basically consists of following a series of MS KB articles) Jeff's product
includes tools which make auditing the existing AD and recreating various
items easier. And includes 'support' of the project.

Interested?

"TR" <tsomething@somewhere> wrote in message
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Is there a kit that needs to be purchased for this swing migration?
TR
"Arthur" <mynewsgroupaccount@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Swing it"
It will save you so much grief :o)


"Steve" <newsgroup@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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This Steve agrees that using a swing migration will probably be best
for your needs.

"SteveB" <swb_mct@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Then you are talking about a full Swing Migration. This only takes a
temporary computer to use as the inermediary. It can be any old p3
workstation with 512 ram and reliable drive.

You can use the same SBS 2003 media to install right out for i386
folder and exchange out of the Setup folder for the temporary
computer. You dont want to run the SBS2003 shell on the temp, Just
Server and Exchange.


"TR" <tsomething@somewhere> wrote in message
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The clean install of SBS2K3 is to be on the same box as the old
SBS2K. For Budget reasons we are not adding a new server, we will be
using the existing server hardware as it is still quite capable.

TR

"SteveB" <swb_mct@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Are you sure you want to abandon the old domain identity. It is
pretty simple to retain the old domain and account identies when you
do the new clean install with the new server by making it a second
domain controller in the existing domain, tranfering FSMO roles,
moving mailboxes and Exchange roles etc. I use Jeff Middletons
Swing Migration as guidance to deal with the the behind the scenes
adustments.

This gives you a clean install without days of 'H" getting the
clients and member servers straighted out. This is a great time
saver, headache saver and you learn something that useful.

To answer your question, this is how you can save profiles. If
there is a better way I would like to know.

1. join the member server to the new domain
2. login with the new instance of the the users new domain account
3. Restart the serve and log in with another admin account
4. Make sure the user is an admin of the machine you are on, or the
old ntuser.dat file will not be read. ( i dont know why )
5. empty the Contents of the new user profile folder. Not the
folder
6. Copy the contents of the old users profile folder to the new
empty profile folder that was created when you logged in with his
account for first time.

Thats it, it works every time . . but maybe there is a better way.

however you will be a MUCH happier if you migrate the old domain and
accounts to the new server using the method I describe above. I
highly recommend getting the current version of Jeff Middleton Swing
Migration kit. Just find it with Google.

You are not doing a full swing but all the right info is in there
for active directory cleanup and role tranfers.






"TR" <tsomething@somewhere> wrote in message
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I have a client network I am supporting that is running SBS2K
Premium. They have finally decided to upgrade to SBS2003 Premium.
This company has gone through many IT support changes over the last
5 years. The SBS2K box is really messed up and the decision has been
made for obvious reasons to backup all data, do a clean install of
SBS2003 and start fresh with a new Domain. The configuration of the
network right now is:

1 SBS2K Box
2 member W2K Server boxes running various proprietary applications
1 member W2K Server box running in Terminal Server Application
mode
1 member W2K3 Enteprise Box running a propietary database and web
application
15 Workstations running WinXP PRo
3 Laptops running WinXP Pro

I do not want to lose the desktops, settings, and profiles for all
users. I know I can use the Settings and Transfer Wizard for the
Workstations, but is there anything that I can use so that I do not
lose the desktops and settings of the domain accounts for the
server boxes?

Thanks
TR

















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