Re: High memory usage (*HELP*)

I would start a new thread for this so you get some more diverse attention.
Post the exact, complete text of the errors you're getting. On your XP
workstation, you can use Computer Management MMC to view the server logs.
(R-click My Computer -> Manage. R-click Computer Management at the top of
the left pane and click "Connect to another computer"). Open the error by
double-clicking, click the Copy button, then paste the error into the new
post.

By the way, are you current on service packs, or at least have SBS SP1
applied?


"ITDUDE27" <ITDUDE27@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Dave,

I've change to settings to the appropriate recmmended setting and the
system
still gets to a point where the system reponds very slow, eventually I'll
get
the Pop up Windows Run time C++ error when that happens. If I launch the
report that resides on that server I will get error pertaining to low vm.

Basically, almost anything you do on the server will give you the error
referencing low vm.

Thanks for your help.

"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:

It seems like we're talking about 2 different issues here. Setting aside
the RAM question because I suspect the SBS is taking care of that as it
should be, it looks like you're a little tight on both drives. That C
will
be ok if the free space stays where it is if the data on the drive stays
about the same (I ran SBS on my old hardware with a 12 GB C with 1.5 GB
free
for months or years). But if it's growing, you need to figure out what
specifically is growing and what you can do about it.

I'd suggest taking a look at this document. Of the items mentioned in
the
document that can be moved, I'd see what's on C that can be moved to D.
On
a server with 4 GB RAM, I doubt you need the second page file on D. So
one
option would be to delete the page file from D and move some data from C
into that space, to give yourself a little more breathing room on C.

Another option would be to put a 4096 MB fixed size page file on D and
remove the page file from C. That'll give you 4 GB extra of breathing
room
on C, but it'll take up 2.5 of the available space on D. Personally,
when I
had SBS on a 12 GB C partition, I didn't have a page file on C due to
space
considerations.


"ITDUDE27" <ITDUDE27@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The virtual memory on C: drive is set to: 4032/4096
The virtual memory on D: drive is set to: 1550/3075
C: is 12Gig capacity - with 1.76GB FREE
D: is 22Gig capacity - with 7.13GB FREE


"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:

How much free space is there available on the C drive? If you have
low
disk
space available, the system will log a specific message indicating
that,
and
not one related to virtual memory.

Low on virtual memory does not necessarily mean anything with regard
to
disk
space. It could just as easily be page file configuration. Do you
have
a
page file set up at 1.5 times the size of your physical RAM? Go to
Control
Panel -> System and check it. You may need to do something with that.

Please post back with the size of your C drive and the amount of free
space
(from My Computer). Also the pagefile settings.


"ITDUDE27" <ITDUDE27@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Dave,

I think i've narrowed it down to a disk space issue. This is a disk
space
issue because i'm down to 2Gig on the server, i've just noticed
antry
in
the
system log "System is low on virtual memory."
suggestion besides getting new drive.
Thanks.

"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:

You mean you are running out of free RAM, or disk space? Disk
space
is a
separate issue from what we've been talking about.

If your system uses all the available RAM, and you're not having
specific
negative symptoms, you can ignore that. Unlike desktop PCs, it's
common
and
acceptable for a server to put all of its available RAM to use.


"ITDUDE27" <ITDUDE27@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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thanks again.

Now i've got to point where lsass.exe and inetinfo.exe has
allocatted a
vast
of memory also. I'm running out of disk space fast. There has to
be
something
going on, and I can't put my finger on it.

I had to reboot the server again this morning.


"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" wrote:

I'll give you a quick response, but please feel free to follow
up
with
questions:

1. Ignore store.exe. You've got plenty of RAM and it's to your
benefit
performance wise to let it do what it wants. 800 MB is probably
not
unusual
on a server with 4 GB - mine consistently runs around 700.

2. What SQL processes are using all that RAM? Open Task
Manager
and
view
the processes, making sure you're displaying the PID (Process
ID).
Open
a
cmd prompt and type "tasklist /svc" which will display what the
PIDs
represent, so you can tell if it's ISA, Monitoring, or
SharePoint.

3. I haven't tried to throttle back the RAM used by SharePoint,
but
I've
throttled ISA and Monitoring. See this KB that tells how to do
it
with
ISA.
You can do the same for Monitoring. For every command that
references
"msfw" in the ISA doc, substitute "sbsmonitoring" to throttle
monitoring.
I
have not been able to find authoritative recommendations for an
amount
of
RAM to throttle it to, but I set both ISA and Monitoring to 128
MB
and
have
not had any problems with either one.

You may experience high memory usage on an ISA Server 2004-based
computer
that logs messages to an MSDE database
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;909636

4. If you're getting allocated memory alerts from the server,
what
I
did
was to run it for 30 days. Then I went into monitoring on the
Server
Mgmt
Console and set the threshold to 110% of the 30 day average.
I'm
still
well
under the 4 GB, and I'm not getting the alerts any more.

FWIW, I don't think this is anything to do with a virus or other
problem.
I
think it's "normal" functions that are configured less than
optimally.

"ITDUDE27" <ITDUDE27@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hello,

I'm running on a SBS 2003 environment with 4gig of RAM. Lately
i've
had
instances where both sqlserver.exe and store.exe allocate
800Meg
of
ram
each
which eventually causes the box to hing. I know exchage can
take
a
good
chunk
of memory, but is it normal for both to take up as much.
IIS occupy close to 1Gig. I think something going on I 've
ran
virus
scan,
spywares
nothing reported. Can anyone help.

Thanks in advance.














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