Re: ISA 2004 fails - starts to block HTTPS for no reason.....

$$ depend on what country your in.

Yes they are that cheap compared to the server outlay but after extracting
thousands of dollars to set up the server they don't want to part with a few
hundred more. After all they were told that the stupid thing did everything
:-)

I think you meant "On ISA the design assumption is that you WILL have a
static connection."
PPPOE can have a static address on SBS 2003.


"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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They can't afford a $20 Linksys router after they spent how much on the
server and are running premium? Come on how cheap are these clients?

On ISA the design assumption is that you won't have a static connection.


Ray Collins wrote:

Sorry, different issue. You choose no to use it but it works if you do.
PPPOE is an advertised feature that doesn't work as advertised i.e. it
has technical problems.

"Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)"
<crisnospamhanna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:crisnospamhanna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote
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I don't know that I call it swept under the rug. Microsoft says
you can host a Website on your SBS, and yes you can. Should you? Not
for any of my clients. I'm not going to expose them to that risk.

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"Ray Collins" <ray.collins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ray.collins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote in message
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Maybe Microsoft should fix it then instead of sweeping it
under the rug. It may seem like a small thing but for small
business every $ counts.

"Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)"
<crisnospamhanna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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MS may support it, but SBS hasn't liked it since day 1.
It almost "never" hiccups with a router doing the PPPoE

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"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:not@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote in message
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Susan was having a 'blonde moment'. Yes, MS 'support'
the use of Windows
PPPoE client on SBS servers.

I'm glad they do, 'coz I won't have anything to do
with it.

;-)

BTW G'day Ray.

"Ray Collins" <ray.collins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ray.collins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote in message
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>I wish people wouldn't say that !
> It is a supported configuration, it may not work
well in some situations
> but it is a supported option.
>
> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
<sbradcpa@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:sbradcpa@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> wrote in message
news:uYG5Dn5WGHA.4924@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> SBS doesn't support a PPPoE connection.. stick a
router out there.
>>
>> Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP) wrote:
>>
>>> SBS hates having the PPPoE software for making the
connection
>>> Put a router which can do the PPPoE between the
external nic and the
>>> dsl modem/gateway
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
>>> --------------------------------------
>>> Please do not respond directly to me, but only
post in the newsgroup so
>>> all can take advantage
>>>
>>> "Jeff Meager"
<JeffMeager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:JeffMeager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> <mailto:JeffMeager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote in message
>>>
news:9DDA3392-794F-4DF2-9576-E0C5C51C79F4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Hi people. We run Premium at our office and
at a few clients. We
>>> have an
>>> issue that has occurred at our office and at a
clients. The issue
>>> that
>>> occurs is that the websites for no reason
suddenly start to be
>>> blocked eg OWA
>>> RWW etc. Basically anything that uses HTTPS. I
have logged the
>>> isa packets
>>> for 80 and 443 and find that the initial port
80 request makes it
>>> through,
>>> the server attempts to redirect to 443 and isa
blocks it with the
>>> last
>>> default rule every time. the fix is a reboot
however one of my
>>> clients is
>>> having to do this weekly which makes the
system seem to be rubbish
>>> to them.
>>>
>>> This doesn'd happen on some other sites I have
using Premium and the
>>> difference here is they have public IP's on a
second network card
>>> and
>>> straight onto the net.
>>> The problem sites however have ADSL modems and
the servers make
>>> the PPPOE
>>> dialup connections.
>>>
>>> So looking at it it must have something to do
with the PPPOE
>>> connections on
>>> these servers however I can't see why that
would cause ISA to
>>> suddenly decide
>>> it has no matching rule and decides to block
the https. Remember
>>> a reboot
>>> fixes it.
>>>
>>> I have tried disconnecting the connection and
reconnecting, no good.
>>> Stopping ISA firewall service normally just
confuses the dialup
>>> connection so
>>> it can't be redialed.
>>>
>>> Any ideas would be appreciated as I can't find
a logical reason
>>> for this.
>>> Oh, and every other ISA service works fine
when the https is being
>>> blocked.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jeff Meager
>>>
>
>



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