Re: Urgent! New router and big disaster

I checked the router, I am running a laptop off of it so I can post. It is
working fine. I wish I could get someone in but I in the sticks and there are
no techies around for miles.

"Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS M" wrote:

Also, it might be a good time to go to the router's configuration page, and
see what it has to say. Is it connected, and what dns servers is it pointing
to? Perhaps they're pooched. If you could easily connect a machine on one of
the router ports (and get the nic configured correctly) you might be able to
determine if there's a working internet connection, or not.

This thread shows how hard it can be to get anything done in a newsgroup
setting. An experienced SBS technician would have this sorted in less than
10 minutes if he was at your premises ;-/.

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"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Go back to pointing the external NIC DNS Servers to the SBS server IP
address (192.168.16.2).

After that, make sure the DHCP Client Service is running on the server.

No DNS Name Resolution If DHCP Client Service Is Not Running
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q268674/

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"Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.connor@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Whooops, local router device is the wrong answer ;-).

You have a full-time broadband connection.

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"Kimmy" <Kimmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Okay, when I run the CEICW this is what I see...
First Page of the Internet Connection Wizard, I select my Broadband
connection.
Next I Select a local router device with an ip address. The next page
are
the DNS Server addresses provided by my ISP, and the local IP address of
router,which are already in.

The Next Page is the network connection page, Under ISP network I have
the
Network connection, but I can't change the ip address or the subnet
mask,
same as the Server Local Area Connection, I can't change addresses there
either.

After that I get the rest, firewall, web server certificate, internet
email
and so on. I am not sure how I can
use the CEICW to make the changes you have listed. Or have I
misunderstood.

"CO-DBA-SC-EL" wrote:

You're getting close. Since you can reach an external web site by using
its
IP it means that your problem is now DNS. I don't see how your settings
could work. In the TCP/IP properties for the external NIC, you need to
specify an external DNS server for DNS, instead of the server's own IP
address. You should do that in the CEICW, that way it will set up the
DNS
forwarding to work correctly. When the CEICW asks you for the
configuration
for the external NIC, use:
IP Address 192.168.0.99 (See Note 1)
Subnet Mask : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers: 192.168.0.1 (See Note 2)

Note 1. 192.168.0.100 looks like an address in the DHCP range of the
router.
You should give your SBS a fixed external address so you can forward
ports
to it reliably in the router. I don't have the D-Link doc but x.x.x.99
should be outside its DHCP range. If not pick another one. Why do that
if
the SBS is the only computer connected to the router? Because some day
you
might try to debug something else, plug a computer in the router while
the
SBS is off or disconnected, then plug the SBS back in and discover that
the
other computer has now been given the address you thought was the SBS's
own.
Then of course RWW and all those goodies quit working. Play it safe.
Use a
fixed address outside the DHCP range of the router.
Note 2. Normally the router will forward DNS requests. You may be able
to
speed things up by specifying the IP address of your ISP's DNS servers
instead of the router -- the router will just pass that through instead
of
actively forwarding.

C_O

"Kimmy" <Kimmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I checked the binding order and the Server Local area connection is at
the
top.

I should have been more clear about internet connection..
- when we open internet explorer the company web is shown, when we
type in
an address... http:www.google.ca, we get page cannot be displayed.
But if
I
type the ip address 65.98.45.220 the webpage loads. (this is true for
Both
the SBS and client stations)
I just read somewhere in another posting about nslookup.exe, and
thought I
would give it a try. I got this..
***Can't find server name for address 192.168.16.2: Non-existent
domain
Default Server: Unknown
Address: 192.168.16.2
( I found that in the DNS - clicked my server name and ran the lookup
tool)

"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:


However, when I checked the binding on the external nic there was
no
TCP/IP
in the list, just File and Printer Sharing and the Microsoft
Client
Networks
were the only two in the list and neither of them are checked
off.

Check Binding order
------------------------
Right click My Network Places...Properties. Highlight the Internal
NIC.
Then
select Advanced...Advanced Settings from the top menu for that
window.
This
will check the bindings.

The Internal NIC should be displayed first followed by the External
NIC.
If
not, move the Internal NIC to the top of the list.
The Internal NIC should have File and Printer Sharing bound
(checkmarked)
to
the TCP/IP Protocol.
The Internal NIC should have Client for Microsoft Networks bound
(checkmarked) to the TCP/IP Protocol.
------------------------

Is the Internal NIC at the top of the list?

After
running the internet connection wizard, no internet was available
for
either
the SBS or the Client by using the test page www.dnslookup.com,
but
each
can
view 65.98.45.220.

What is 65.98.45.220? If neother SBS server nor client workstation
had
Internet access, how could they view anything at this public
(Internet)
IP
address?

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"Kimmy" <Kimmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Been having a a lot of trouble. The orignial router died and now
we
are
using a D-Link 604. My problem is this:

1 -I have the set up done just like this...

http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=266&articleType=ArticleView&articleId=76

However, when I checked the binding on the external nic there was
no
TCP/IP
in the list, just File and Printer Sharing and the Microsoft
Client
Networks
were the only two in the list and neither of them are checked
off.
After
running the internet connection wizard, no internet was available
for
either
the SBS or the Client by using the test page www.dnslookup.com,
but
each
can
view 65.98.45.220.

The Current ipconfig/all from server is this
Server Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix:
Description: Intel Pro/1000
Physical Address: 00-14-22-B4_12-CE
DHCP Enabled : NO
IP Address 192.168.16.2
Subnet Mask : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway:
DNS Servers: 192.168.16.2
Primary Wins Server 192.168.16.2

Ethernet Network Connection

Connection-specific DNS Suffix:
Description: BroadCom NetXtream
Physical Address: 00-10-18-18-31-C2
DHCP Enabled : NO
IP Address 192.168.0.100
Subnet Mask : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers: 192.168.16.2
NetBios Over TCPIP: Diabled
Any ideas?

Other info... Before I ran the internet connection wizard, I also
disabled
the UPNP on the router itself. I have checked the DNS Service and
it is
running, also is the DCHP Service.
I wonder if I may have missed a firewall setting on the router as
well.


"CO-DBA-SC-EL" wrote:

Hmmm. In a 2-NIC setup changing the router (which feeds the WAN
side
of
the
SBS) should have nothing to do with the inability of the clients
to
login
to
the domain. Completely separate networks. The IPconfig for the
client
shows
that the client is not able to get an address from the DHCP
server on
the
SBS.

Now, a problem could occur if the physical net was configured to
use
the
router's LAN switch to connect the workstations (both SBS NICs
into
the
same
switch) which in theory should work but is of course a very bad
practice.
If
that is the problem, try to fix that, using the diagram in the
SBS
documentation (such as it is...). Assuming that this is not the
problem...

First check whether the DHCP service is running. If it is not,
start
it,
then try to figure out why it did not start in the first place.

If that does not fix the problem, go through the following steps:

1. Verify that the workstations can physically connect to the LAN
.

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