Re: actually feeling ripped off by microsoft, I'd like input from the group

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Courts are like casinios. Players win or loose, the Casinios (lawyers)
always win.

/kj
"Gary Karasik" <gkarasik@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O$m9l$mKGHA.1192@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Exactly, Susan. And who wins in these cases depends on who does the better
job. MDBJ has a chance of winning here because MS's lawyers screwed up.
Court cases don't come about because everyone is behaving reasonably.

GaryK

"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote in message news:%23fg4YoiKGHA.516@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Are you kidding? You know how many court cases are BECAUSE of
ambiguities on attorney written contracts?

Gary Karasik wrote:
I think a reasonable person would agree with you (and nearly everyone
else) that MS means only one client PC. The poster is technically
correct that the sentence as written does not say specifically exclude
other, single PCs, as opposed to say a network. It's a lawyer's job to
eliminate all possible ambiguities. They haven't done that here.

GaryK

"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote in message news:uda6uDWKGHA.1832@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

That's a stretch Gary.

Single PC = one pc.

Gary Karasik wrote:

I believe that you are technically correct. As written, the sentence
does not exclude putting it on several single PCs. Microsoft pays a
lot of money to lawyers to avoid just such ambiguities, and in this
case MS didn't get its money's worth.

GaryK

"MDBJ" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uQpoeFTKGHA.2828@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


sure, I'm parsing the sentence.
what part indicates that it can't be put on more than one PC?

"may be installed on a single pc" does not exclude "more than one
pc."

look at
"you may install it on a single pc, you may also install it on two
pcs"
the point being, the first part does not invalidate the second part.
a accurate sentance would be
"you may only install it on a single pc" which would make the two
liner
"you may only install it on a single pc, you may also install it on
two pcs"

do you see the difference? the way it's written, it has not excluded
the possibility of multiple installations.




"James Frederickson - (MSFT)" <jamesfre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
in message news:OKcFB4SKGHA.3944@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


That is what the FAQ answer said, "may be installed on a single
client
computer" take a look again it is the documentation that you
requested.





Q. Is it possible to install the server applications included with
Windows
Small Business Server 2003 on a different computer running Windows
Server?
Is it possible to install the server applications included with
Windows
Small Business Server 2003 on a different computer running Windows
Server?
For example, I want to run SQL Server on the computer running
Windows
Small
Business Server 2003, but I want to run Exchange Server 2003 on a
different
computer.

A. No. The server applications that come with the product must be
installed
on the same physical machine, if they are installed at all. The
only
exception is that FrontPage 2003, which is included with the
premium
edition, may be installed on a single client computer in the
Windows Small
Business Server 2003 network.



James

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| thanks for the reply.
| i'm looking for something that says, only! on a single client
computer.
|
| "James Frederickson - (MSFT)" <jamesfre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote in
| message news:JQbu4cSKGHA.224@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > Hi MDBJ
| >
| > I am sorry you are not feeling like you received good value for
your
| > money.
| > I found the info you requested on the Microsoft SBS FAQ site,
| >
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/techinfo/overview/generalfaq.
| > mspx
| >
| >
| > Q. Is it possible to install the server applications included
with
Windows
| > Small Business Server 2003 on a different computer running
Windows
Server?
| > Is it possible to install the server applications included with
Windows
| > Small Business Server 2003 on a different computer running
Windows
Server?
| > For example, I want to run SQL Server on the computer running
Windows
| > Small
| > Business Server 2003, but I want to run Exchange Server 2003 on
a
| > different
| > computer.
| >
| > A. No. The server applications that come with the product must
be
| > installed
| > on the same physical machine, if they are installed at all. The
only
| > exception is that FrontPage 2003, which is included with the
premium
| > edition, may be installed on a single client computer in the
Windows
Small
| > Business Server 2003 network.
| >
| > James
| >
| > Jamesfre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > James Frederickson [MSFT]
| >
| >
| >
| > --------------------
| > | From: "MDBJ" <me@xxxxxx>
| > | Subject: actually feeling ripped off by microsoft, I'd like
input from
| > the group
| > | Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 19:21:13 -0500
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| > |
| > | I'm feeling either mislead or ripped off, I'd like anyone
willing to
| > show
| > me
| > | what I missed at microsoft.com or to validate my feelings of
dismay.
| > |
| > | History:
| > | last year I purchased a sbs 2003 basic server.
| > | I did a LOT of reading on it before shelling out the money on
a
business
| > | class but for home network server..
| > | I was really happy that it included outlook licenses per cal
on my
pcs.
| > |
| > | today I opened the package that contained my sbs std to
premium
upgrade
| > cd
| > |
| > | I'm seriously dismayed to discover, the license for front page
is
valid
| > for
| > | ONE MACHINE ONLY.
| > |
| > | can anyone indicate to me, where on microsofts website, I
could have
| > | discovered the fact that the license for FP is limited to one
machine
in
| > the
| > | domain before my purchase?
| > |
| > | I thought it was another client app I could distribute, just
like
| > outlook-
| > | to all cal members.....
| > |
| > | If someone could show me a page under the SBS portion that
indicates
| > it's
| > a
| > | single seat, I'd really like to see it.
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| > <EMAILSUBJECT>Newsgroup Message Response to IssueID:
| > <ISSUEID></EMAILSUBJECT>
| > Hi <NAME>,
| >
| > I wanted to inform you that I have replied to your thread in
<NEWSGROUP>
| > titled: <NEWSGROUPSUBJECT> with IssueID: <ISSUEID>.
| > <a href="http://wwww.microsoft.com>
| > Please reply directly to the thread with any updates. You may
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| > Regards,
| >
| >
|
|
|

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<ISSUEID></EMAILSUBJECT>
Hi <NAME>,

I wanted to inform you that I have replied to your thread in
<NEWSGROUP>
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<a href="http://wwww.microsoft.com>
Please reply directly to the thread with any updates. You may
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Regards,













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