Re: Router problems



I had the website setup on windows 2000 professional previously. And the
setup on SBS2003
was essentially the same. The only exception of course was Publishing it
through ISA.
I just followed those instructions, it was straight forward, no problems.

The website works fine through my ISA. It doesnt cost me a thing, and I've
never had any
kind of sercurity issues. Part of my website accesses my local databases and
printers, so I have to host it myself.
I run AFP, active fox pages.

The router setup is the issue. It works fine without it. Thanks again for
your help, I am in the process of
looking over the informtion you suggested; but most of that is setup and
working.


"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> I have to admit that I've never set up an externally accessible company web
> site on SBS since it usually makes more sense from a security and cost
> standpoint to have it hosted by a 3rd party hoster. I'd suggest you look at
> Marina's article and compare that to your current setup.
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
> ===================================
>
> "steve tysinger" <stevetysinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:8A99B2A8-0287-49E4-9937-F4FBA98F7F01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Currently, I do not have the router installed. Since it kills my website,
> > I
> > have to take it off.
> >
> > When the router is installed No one from the outside can access the
> > website,
> > nor can anyone
> > from the inside access it either.
> >
> > Unless of course you type the IP address of the server in your browser;
> > 192.168.16.2, then
> > yes the inside users can access it with the router installed.
> >
> > What did you think about my idea of changing the websites IP address. In
> > IIS
> > it is set to use 192.168.16.2:80, Do you think it would help if I changed
> > that to my external NIC IP.
> >
> > I have been looking through all of your recommended posts, thanks.
> >
> > "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Unless you've specifically upgraded to SBS 2003 SP1 and installed ISA
> >> 2004,
> >> you are still at ISA 2000 (ISA 2000 SP1, I believe). Some of the links
> >> in
> >> my previous post may help you troubleshoot the problem.
> >>
> >> Have you looked at Marina's article? ...
> >>
> >> How to create a new website in SharePoint [Author Marina Roos]
> >> http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=148
> >>
> >> And I can access your web site (www.eliznc.com) from my computer. Are
> >> you
> >> having trouble accessing your web site from a computer attached directly
> >> to
> >> the router or from a computer on your LAN?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
> >> ===================================
> >> "steve tysinger" <stevetysinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:2A244760-EF8C-4B5F-B385-86CEE54D1D3C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > My website is my company's website not "companyweb"
> >> >
> >> > It is www.eliznc.com
> >> >
> >> > Not sure to how to tell which ISA version I am using. It came with
> >> > SBS2003
> >> > premium edition.
> >> > When I look for the version number all I seem to find is 3.0.1200.
> >> >
> >> > The back of my microsoft box lists ISA server 2000
> >> >
> >> > "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Is this "companyweb" (your intranet) that you're trying to publish to
> >> >> the
> >> >> web or is it your company's web site?
> >> >> Which flavor of ISA are you running: 2000 or 2004?
> >> >>
> >> >> More info about publsihing web sites...
> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs/browse_thread/thread/64257c427f893935/2a469c9b49824da5?lnk=st&q=sbs+2003+web+server+publish+web+site&rnum=2&hl=en#2a469c9b49824da5
> >> >>
> >> >> And
> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs/browse_thread/thread/6168532ad5ed7032/83e7bbd40c58142e?lnk=st&q=sbs+2003+web+server+publish+web+site&rnum=3&hl=en#83e7bbd40c58142e
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
> >> >> ===================================
> >> >> "steve tysinger" <stevetysinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> >> >> message
> >> >> news:F9392105-2EE3-4454-85A6-95BDAAD775DB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >I tried your suggestions but still was not able to get the port
> >> >> >forwarding
> >> >> >to
> >> >> > work. My webserver was inaccessable. Everything else worked.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I tried to duplicate your scenario with the following exceptions;
> >> >> > my defaul router IP was 192.168.0.1 not 192.168.1.1
> >> >> > I assumed this wouldn't be a problem so I left it default.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In turn, my extrernal nic IP was 192.168.0.2 and similarly the
> >> >> > gateway
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > it was 192.168.0.1
> >> >> >
> >> >> > my address pool in DHCP is 192.168.16.1 (not .0) to 192.168.16.254
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Everything else in your diagram was the same as my setup.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I forwareded port 80 to my external nic, 192.168.0.2
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My connection was shared, I could acces the web directly by plugging
> >> >> > into
> >> >> > the router, but no one could access my webserver.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I re ran ICW twice. Once using a direct broadband connection, then
> >> >> > using
> >> >> > an
> >> >> > internal router. Neither of those fixed the problem.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have spent two afternoons on this so far. Just to let you know,
> >> >> > I've
> >> >> > made
> >> >> > a serious attempt.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks for all your help.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > BTW, my modem is a router type but it is set to bypass the router
> >> >> > feature
> >> >> > and just deliver the static IP. My IP TW road runner, has told me
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > recently.
> >> >> > "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Set up the network (with router) per the diagram at:
> >> >> >> http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=154
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Forward the required ports from your router to the IP address of
> >> >> >> your
> >> >> >> external NIC:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Port 25 for Exchange
> >> >> >> Port 443 and 4125 for RWW
> >> >> >> Port 1723 for VPN (and set up router to pass GRE Protocol 47 for
> >> >> >> PPTP)
> >> >> >> Port 444 for publishing your intranet (companyweb)
> >> >> >> Port 80 (if you have a web server - a questionable approach with
> >> >> >> SBS)
> >> >> >> Port 3389 for TS (if you remotely administer the SBS with an RDC
> >> >> >> session)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Then re-run CEICW.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I assume you have a standard cable modem (just a modem and not a
> >> >> >> modem-router).
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Once you get this setup and working, the preferred approach is to
> >> >> >> add
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> WAP
> >> >> >> into the mix and connect it to a port on your router. This allows
> >> >> >> "visitors" to get direct wireless access to the Internet. They
> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> within your SBS network, so ISA won't be an issue. They can just
> >> >> >> set
> >> >> >> their
> >> >> >> laptops to get an IP automatically (from the WAP) so that they can
> >> >> >> connect
> >> >> >> to the Web from anywhere in your building (within the limits of the
> >> >> >> WAP).
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Of course, you can also have the laptops use hard wires connected
> >> >> >> back
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> ports on the router, but this limits their mobility.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
> >> >> >> ===================================
> >> >> >> "steve tysinger" <stevetysinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:34C0F1E1-06E3-4913-956A-3CCFB4B86F6D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> > Currently there is no router setup. I am having problems setting
> >> >> >> > up
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > wired router. We have no "wireless" in the building. Everything
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > wired.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I am unable to setup the router and maintain access to our
> >> >> >> > webserver.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Hi Steve,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Just a question...
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> If these visitors are using laptops, why aren't plugging a WAP
> >> >> >> >> (Wireless
> >> >> >> >> Access Point) into your router and then having them use it for
> >> >> >> >> Internet
> >> >> >> >> Access.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
> >> >> >> >> ===================================
> >> >> >> >> "steve tysinger" <stevetysinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:3172B1D9-C688-4C81-A920-5F7A7FF754D9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> >I have a SBS2003 running a web server in IIS. It's a Dell
> >> >> >> >> >server
> >> >> >> >> >with
> >> >> >> >> >(2)
> >> >> >> >> > Nics. One nic goes out to my LAN the other connects to the
> >> >> >> >> > interenet
> >> >> >> >> > via
> >> >> >> >> > cable mode. The internet connection NIC is set to a static IP
> >> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> >> > assigned by time warner road runner. All of this works well. I
> >> >> >> >> > share
> >> >> >> >> > my
> >> >> >> >> > connection to my users via ISA and outside users can access my
> >> >> >> >> > website.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Now I have a need to add a router between my cable modem and
> >> >> >> >> > my
> >> >> >> >> > server.
> >> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> >> > have some visitors that require a direct connection to the
> >> >> >> >> > internet,
> >> >> >> >> > one
> >> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> >> > does not go through ISA or my lan.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I can setup the router, assigning my static IP on the router
> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > internet connection is shared fine, but no one can access my
> >> >> >> >> > website.
> >> >> >> >> > So I
> >> >> >> >> > try to forward the HTTP on the router. When I attempt this the
> >> >> >> >> > router
> >> >> >> >> > tells
> >> >> >> >> > me that in order to forward a port it must be on the same
> >> >> >> >> > subnet
> >> >> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> >> > my
> >> >> >> >> > lan
> >> >> >> >> > IP.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > OK, So I need to change my router lan IP so that it is on my
> >> >> >> >> > Local
> >> >> >> >> > Lan
> >> >> >> >> > IP.
> >> >> >> >> > Once I change it, I can no longer connect to it through the
> >> >> >> >> > interface,
> >> >> >> >> > nor
> >> >> >> >> > can i ping it. Even after a ipconfig release and renew.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I'm thinking I need to do something in SBS so that it will
> >> >> >> >> > search
> >> >> >> >> > across
> >> >> >> >> > that second nic for another LAN IP address.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > My server LAN NIC IP is 192.168.16.2
> >> >> >> >> > The default router IP is 192.168.0.1
> >> >> >> >> > Once I change the router IP to say 192.168.16.3 it is no
> >> >> >> >> > longer
> >> >> >> >> > accessable.
> >> >> >> >> > Cant connect to it. 3-9 is reserved in my dhcp. so there is no
> >> >> >> >> > conflict.
> >> >> >> >>
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