Re: SBS2003 - Cannot restore GPO following Article 888943


HI AJ,

Thanks for your updates.


I am sorry for the delayed response due to weekend. Please understand that
the newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals to
answer your systems and applications questions. Your understanding is
greatly appreciated!

I understand that you want to know if you can return to the pre-crash
states after you return the Exchange database from the previous backup.

Now let me explain the backup clearly, the SBS backup and restore can help
you return every kind of system state just you running the backup, so if
you have changed anything after the last backup, the backup will not
restore it.

For the Exchange issue, as I know if we do a full system state backup, the
restore process will return all the thing to state that just before backup
we can not configure the restore process to restore part of the system
backup and we also can not control the restore process. But if it is a good
backup, it will help you restore the system to a healthy state, but the
changes you have already done after the backup have to be configure again.

Thanks for your effort here.




Best regards,

Charles Yang (MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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| NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:15:04 -0600
| From: AJ <aj_king7@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| Subject: Re: SBS2003 - Cannot restore GPO following Article 888943
| Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 11:15:06 -0500
| Organization: IveBeenMoved
| Message-ID: <s6bjp15tmjel039426278rch2g5d89vn6n@xxxxxxx>
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|
| Hi,
|
| Even this rephrasing of the question doesn't seem clear when I reread
| it.... English is a great language--just wish I could communicate!
|
| Q. If I do a system stae restore, do I overwrite the exchange data
| files? i.e., if the user had changed something like an email address,
| will that be lost after a system state restore?
|
| There. I hope that's clear enough.
|
| AJ
|
| On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:25:57 -0500, AJ <aj_king7@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
|
| >Hi Charles,
| >
| >Thank you for your responses. I guess my questions were not clear
| >enough. May I try again?
| >
| >Given that a user has altered the exchange database (received mail and
| >changed the address information etc.), when I do a restore of the
| >system state, will I alter the exchange data to return to its
| >pre-crash values? Can I just restore the state of the GPO? Or when I
| >restore the system state, do I have any control over the restoration
| >of the PRIV. and PUB database information? Do these databases get
| >overwritten automatically?
| >
| >Thanks for the information & your efforts and patience.
| >
| >AJ
| >
| >
| >
| >On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 01:03:50 GMT, v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >("Charles Yang [MSFT]") wrote:
| >
| >>Hi Aj,
| >>
| >>Thanks for updates.
| >>
| >>The backup will restore the whole system state including the exchange
| >>database and mailbox, if you have choose to backup exchange database
when
| >>running SBS backup via wizard.
| >>
| >>There will be no problem to access the mailbox store after a restore
from
| >>SBS backup, but all will return to the system state when backup.
| >>
| >>For the DNS issue, we recommend do like that, as we encounter many
similar
| >>issue which cause long delay on the client copmuter or accessing
exchange
| >>server via outlook.
| >>
| >>I hope the above information helpful to your issue. Thanks again for
your
| >>efforts.
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>Best regards,
| >>
| >>Charles Yang (MSFT)
| >>
| >>Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >>
| >>Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >>
| >>======================================================
| >>This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
| >>regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
corresponding
| >>newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
manner.
| >>You can locate the newsgroup here:
| >>http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
| >>
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| >>"Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there
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| >>please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
| >>issue.
| >>
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| >>provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
| >>different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
doing
| >>so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| >>
| >>For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
Please
| >>check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
| >>
| >>Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| >>======================================================
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| >>| NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:47:25 -0600
| >>| From: AJ <aj_king7@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| >>| Subject: Re: SBS2003 - Cannot restore GPO following Article 888943
| >>| Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 10:53:22 -0500
| >>| Organization: IveBeenMoved
| >>| Message-ID: <v5lgp19i4d8nke8f0v27ln6d7n2gf7msgh@xxxxxxx>
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| >>|
| >>| Hi,
| >>|
| >>| My profuse appologies. I should have checked sooner... someone had
| >>| enabled SBS Backup and the system state files are available from a day
| >>| or two before the crash! (This is embarassing to admit.)
| >>|
| >>| I did a test restore to a temp directory and verified the presence of
| >>| system state files and data. I've verified that junction points exist.
| >>| I noted that there are policies under the backup state that don't
| >>| exist under the current state (in SYSVOL).
| >>|
| >>| I did not rerun CEICW. I'm not confident that I can reboot and
| >>| successfully log in under the circumstances. DNS entries have be
| >>| altered as requested. (The question remains: why have alternate DNS IP
| >>| settings if you don't use them?)
| >>|
| >>| One more question: Will a state restore alter access to any of the
| >>| exchange data store files created since the backup? i.e., since the
| >>| user has extensively modified the private & public databases in
| >>| exchange, will there be any problems after a system state restore to
| >>| a previous date?
| >>|
| >>| Thanks for your continued assistance.
| >>|
| >>| AJ
| >>|
| >>| On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 06:51:57 GMT, v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>| ("Charles Yang [MSFT]") wrote:
| >>|
| >>| >HI Aj,
| >>| >
| >>| >It seems the issue should be related to DNS server issue. We may let
the
| >>| >SBS CEICW help recreate a DNS forward zone. Before we use the CEICW
to
| >>| >create a DNS zone, please tell us if you have any other DNS entry
for
| >>the
| >>| >website other than the default setting such as companyweb and
default
| >>| >website? If have, you need to manually recreate that data after DNS
| >>| >recreate, here I suggest you navigate to the DNS console then delete
all
| >>| >the DNS forward zone. Then rerun CEICW to let the wizard create a
new
| >>DNS
| >>| >zone for your SBS server, please carefully go through every steps
not
| >>just
| >>| >by pass the steps.
| >>| >
| >>| >Also make sure that all the DNS entry on the client computer TCP/IP
| >>| >properties only SBS internal NIC is in the list, this will resolve
the
| >>DNS
| >>| >delay issue. We encounter so many similar issue that the customer
| >>encounter
| >>| >problem when logon the domain or connect to exchange server very
slowly
| >>as
| >>| >they add a second DNS server as a backup DNS server, so that every
time
| >>the
| >>| >client computer will try to search both server so it cause the
process
| >>| >slowly.
| >>| >
| >>| >I hope the above information helpful. Thanks again for your efforts.
| >>| >
| >>| >
| >>| >
| >>| >Best regards,
| >>| >
| >>| >Charles Yang (MSFT)
| >>| >
| >>| >Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >>| >
| >>| >Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >>| >
| >>| >======================================================
| >>| >This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
issues
| >>| >regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
| >>corresponding
| >>| >newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
| >>manner.
| >>| >You can locate the newsgroup here:
| >>| >http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
| >>| >
| >>| >When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you
check
| >>the
| >>| >"Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when
there
| >>are
| >>| >any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
| >>newsreader,
| >>| >please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from
your
| >>| >issue.
| >>| >
| >>| >Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although
we
| >>| >provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
| >>| >different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean.
In
| >>doing
| >>| >so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| >>| >
| >>| >For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
| >>Please
| >>| >check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
numbers.
| >>| >
| >>| >Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| >>| >======================================================
| >>| >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| >>rights.
| >>| >
| >>| >
| >>| >=====================================================
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| >>| >that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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| >>| >| NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:47:30 -0600
| >>| >| From: AJ <aj_king7@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>| >| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| >>| >| Subject: Re: SBS2003 - Cannot restore GPO following Article 888943
| >>| >| Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 22:47:32 -0500
| >>| >| Organization: IveBeenMoved
| >>| >| Message-ID: <a0mcp1dinlttddpk7cam2gqr5cu6tohmhm@xxxxxxx>
| >>| >| References: <np32p11ap2jha9v8fge24ar3e2f0hqpaul@xxxxxxx>
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| >>| >|
| >>| >| Hi,
| >>| >|
| >>| >| Thanks for helping so far. For budget reasons, we have to explore
this
| >>| >| route first. We've made a ghost image of the system drive so we'll
| >>| >| have that to fall back on.
| >>| >|
| >>| >| I note that the DC and DNS are still working, albeit slowly. How
can I
| >>| >| check to see if they're still set up properly? Is there a template
| >>| >| version that I can access to see what they should look like?
| >>| >|
| >>| >| When using Outlook from a workstation, access time seems to be
slow.
| >>| >| The rights verification seems to hang for a few seconds. When using
| >>| >| Explorer from a workstation, I've noticed that I've had to log in
over
| >>| >| again. Seems like a rights problem to me.
| >>| >|
| >>| >| Any thoughts?
| >>| >|
| >>| >| AJ
| >>| >|
| >>| >|
| >>| >|
| >>| >| On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 06:46:12 GMT, v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>| >| ("Charles Yang [MSFT]") wrote:
| >>| >|
| >>| >| >HI,
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >Thanks for updates.
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >After discussing with our SP, we confirm that using repair
function
| >>on
| >>| >SBS
| >>| >| >2003 could not resolve all problems, it might also cause some
other
| >>| >issue.
| >>| >| >The quickest way is to do a clean reinstall of SBS 2003 and
restore
| >>the
| >>| >| >system from the previous backup. From your description, it seems
you
| >>did
| >>| >| >not have any recent backup, we can help you continue to do in
this
| >>post,
| >>| >| >but it should be a time consuming issue and we can not make sure
that
| >>| >the
| >>| >| >problem will be resolved at last. So if you want to solve it
quickly,
| >>it
| >>| >is
| >>| >| >your best interest to call CSS, they can handle any hardware
crash
| >>and
| >>| >| >reinstall issue more quickly than in a newsgroup
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >To obtain the phone numbers for specific technology request
please
| >>take
| >>| >a
| >>| >| >look at the web site listed below.
| >>| >| >
| >>| >|
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-US;PHONENUMBERS
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >If you are outside the US please see http://support.microsoft.com
for
| >>| >| >regional support phone numbers.
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >I really appreciate your understanding on this issue, please feel
| >>free
| >>| >to
| >>| >| >post back if you still want to get support from us. Thanks so
much
| >>for
| >>| >your
| >>| >| >effort, I am sorry for any inconvenient on this issue.
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >Best regards,
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >Charles Yang (MSFT)
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >======================================================
| >>| >| >This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
| >>issues
| >>| >| >regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
| >>| >corresponding
| >>| >| >newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and
timely
| >>| >manner.
| >>| >| >You can locate the newsgroup here:
| >>| >| >http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you
| >>check
| >>| >the
| >>| >| >"Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when
there
| >>| >are
| >>| >| >any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
| >>| >newsreader,
| >>| >| >please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from
| >>your
| >>| >| >issue.
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread.
Although
| >>we
| >>| >| >provide other information for your reference, we recommend you
post
| >>| >| >different incidents in different threads to keep the thread
clean. In
| >>| >doing
| >>| >| >so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS
directly.
| >>| >Please
| >>| >| >check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
numbers.
| >>| >| >
| >>| >| >Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| >>| >| >======================================================
| >>| >| >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
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| >>| >rights.
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| >>| >| >| NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 20:52:07 -0600
| >>| >| >| From: AJ <aj_king7@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>| >| >| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| >>| >| >| Subject: Re: SBS2003 - Cannot restore GPO following Article
888943
| >>| >| >| Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 21:52:08 -0500
| >>| >| >| Organization: IveBeenMoved
| >>| >| >| Message-ID: <bjt9p192u6rpuvq5kqbbss491qmkbtvked@xxxxxxx>
| >>| >| >| References: <np32p11ap2jha9v8fge24ar3e2f0hqpaul@xxxxxxx>
| >>| >| ><H0$7v5U#FHA.832@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>| >| ><qfq8p1t0pqb3420r79q9qag9q1iptuj9mo@xxxxxxx>
| >>| >| ><IBA7tFg#FHA.4000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>| >| >| X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652
| >>| >| >| MIME-Version: 1.0
| >>| >| >| Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
| >>| >| >| Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| >>| >| >| Lines: 627
| >>| >| >| NNTP-Posting-Host: 72.56.43.183
| >>| >| >| X-Trace:
| >>| >|
| >>|
|
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| >>/
| >>| >N
| >>| >| >S9C6rawm!PNy0Uso=
| >>| >| >| X-Complaints-To: abuse@xxxxxxxxxx
| >>| >| >| X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@xxxxxxxxxx
| >>| >| >| X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL
| >>headers
| >>| >| >| X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process
your
| >>| >| >complaint properly
| >>| >| >| X-Postfilter: 1.3.32
| >>| >| >| Path:
| >>| >|
| >>|
|
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| >>E
| >>| >D
| >>| >| >!not-for-mail
| >>| >| >| Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl
| >>microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:227962
| >>| >| >| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >| >| Hi,
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >| >| As far as I was able to gather information, there was no real
| >>| >| >| "recovery" that took place other than a "repair" - when the new
| >>drive
| >>| >| >| with the O/S "discovered" the original during the boot
sequence, it
| >>| >| >| undertook to "repair" it so that it was readable. What that
| >>| >| >| constituted I'm not sure, but that doesn't sound like a restore
from
| >>| >| >| backup of another installation, just a file system repair.
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >| >| As to the second DNS setting, the system worked quite well
prior to
| >>| >| >| the crash. As I understand, if primary DNS doesn't respond, the
| >>client
| >>| >| >| will automatically try the next DNS listed. I will, however,
put in
| >>| >| >| forwarders on the SBS server DNS.
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >| >| Since there is no recent backup, is there a way of identifying
if
| >>the
| >>| >| >| SYSVOL has the respective junction points before doing a
restore
| >>from
| >>| >| >| backup or do I have to do a repair install? Should I consider
| >>| >| >| following article 315457?
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >| >| Thanks for the help.
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >| >| AJ
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >| >| On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 01:07:20 GMT, v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>| >| >| ("Charles Yang [MSFT]") wrote:
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >HI,
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >Thanks for updates.
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >From your description, it seems your currently system is
recovery
| >>| >from
| >>| >| >| >another installation of SBS 2003? Could you clarify it more
| >>clearly,
| >>| >as
| >>| >| >I
| >>| >| >| >know, we can only restore the SBS 2003 from it own backup, if
you
| >>| >| >restore
| >>| >| >| >it from another SBS 2003 installation, it will cause many
known
| >>| >issue,
| >>| >| >| >especially in DNS and AD which will certainly cause the issue
you
| >>| >| >| >encountered. If this is your situation, it is your best
interest
| >>to
| >>| >do
| >>| >| >| >restore from its own backup or do a clean reinstall.
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >Also I found your DNS setting on the SBS server have another
DNS
| >>| >server
| >>| >| >| >entry, could you remove it from TCP/IP properties, as I know
we
| >>| >| >recommend
| >>| >| >| >put on SBS internal NIC as the DNS server on all the client
| >>computer
| >>| >and
| >>| >| >| >server computer TCP/IP properties.
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >As the issue seems to be an urgency issue, we suggest you call
CSS
| >>| >for
| >>| >| >| >assistance.
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >To obtain the phone numbers for specific technology request
please
| >>| >take
| >>| >| >a
| >>| >| >| >look at the web site listed below.
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >|
| >>>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-US;PHONENUMBERS
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >If you are outside the US please see
http://support.microsoft.com
| >>for
| >>| >| >| >regional support phone numbers.
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >Thanks so much for your understanding here. I am glad to be of
| >>| >| >assistance.
| >>| >| >| >Please feel free to post back the results.
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >Best regards,
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >Charles Yang (MSFT)
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >======================================================
| >>| >| >| >This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you
have
| >>| >issues
| >>| >| >| >regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
| >>| >| >corresponding
| >>| >| >| >newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and
timely
| >>| >| >manner.
| >>| >| >| >You can locate the newsgroup here:
| >>| >| >|
>http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend
you
| >>| >check
| >>| >| >the
| >>| >| >| >"Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications
when
| >>there
| >>| >| >are
| >>| >| >| >any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
| >>| >| >newsreader,
| >>| >| >| >please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit
from
| >>| >your
| >>| >| >| >issue.
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread.
| >>Although
| >>| >we
| >>| >| >| >provide other information for your reference, we recommend you
| >>post
| >>| >| >| >different incidents in different threads to keep the thread
clean.
| >>In
| >>| >| >doing
| >>| >| >| >so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely
manner.
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS
directly.
| >>| >| >Please
| >>| >| >| >check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
| >>numbers.
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| >>| >| >| >======================================================
| >>| >| >| >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers
| >>no
| >>| >| >rights.
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >=====================================================
| >>| >| >| >When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your
| >>newsreader
| >>| >so
| >>| >| >| >that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
| >>| >| >| >=====================================================
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers
| >>no
| >>| >| >rights.
| >>| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >--------------------
| >>| >| >| >| NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 10:48:22 -0600
| >>| >| >| >| From: AJ <aj_king7@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>| >| >| >| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| >>| >| >| >| Subject: Re: SBS2003 - Cannot restore GPO following Article
| >>888943
| >>| >| >| >| Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:48:23 -0500
| >>| >| >| >| Organization: IveBeenMoved
| >>| >| >| >| Message-ID: <qfq8p1t0pqb3420r79q9qag9q1iptuj9mo@xxxxxxx>
| >>| >| >| >| References: <np32p11ap2jha9v8fge24ar3e2f0hqpaul@xxxxxxx>
| >>| >| >| ><H0$7v5U#FHA.832@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>| >| >| >| X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652
| >>| >| >| >| MIME-Version: 1.0
| >>| >| >| >| Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
| >>| >| >| >| Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| >>| >| >| >| Lines: 453
| >>| >| >| >| NNTP-Posting-Host: 72.56.43.183
| >>| >| >| >| X-Trace:
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >|
| >>|
|
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| >>|
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| >>n
| >>| >/
| >>| >| >G
| >>| >| >| >ocLs+Kvk!T98nn0o=
| >>| >| >| >| X-Complaints-To: abuse@xxxxxxxxxx
| >>| >| >| >| X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@xxxxxxxxxx
| >>| >| >| >| X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of
ALL
| >>| >headers
| >>| >| >| >| X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to
process
| >>your
| >>| >| >| >complaint properly
| >>| >| >| >| X-Postfilter: 1.3.32
| >>| >| >| >| Path:
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >|
| >>|
|
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| >>| >l
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| >>g
| >>| >a
| >>| >| >n
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >|
| >>|
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| >>T
| >>| >E
| >>| >| >D
| >>| >| >| >!not-for-mail
| >>| >| >| >| Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl
| >>| >microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:227815
| >>| >| >| >| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Hi Charles,
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Thanks for your response. In the meantime, a few things have
been
| >>| >| >| >| tried, but the situation is basically the same. System is
| >>usable,
| >>| >but
| >>| >| >| >| serious conditions exist. Your continued help will be
| >>appreciated.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Here's some more information that may assist in your
| >>understanding
| >>| >of
| >>| >| >| >| the problem.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Preamble - Network configuration is as follows:
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Server-----------------Gigabit router----------cable modem
| >>| >| >| >| **********************|
| >>| >| >| >| **********************|
| >>| >| >| >| **********************|
| >>| >| >| >| 2 Workstation(s)********|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Server running SBS 2003 Std (ISA not installed)
| >>| >| >| >| motherboard is Tyan S2891 with Broadcom dual port Gbe
(using
| >>port
| >>| >2
| >>| >| >| >| for local net)
| >>| >| >| >| ip= 10.0.0.20
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Router ip=10.0.0.3 (defined as Gateway)
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Workstations running Win XP Pro w/ latest SP
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| All NICs are configured with DNS Servers: 10.0.0.20 and
4.2.2.1
| >>| >since
| >>| >| >| >| they want the workstations to continue to access the
internet
| >>even
| >>| >if
| >>| >| >| >| the server is down.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Situation:
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| This configuration worked with no errors prior to a disk
crash
| >>that
| >>| >| >| >| caused a CMOS change and perhaps other file
changes/deletions
| >>(?).
| >>| >| >| >| System was recovered by a h/w tech using another
installation of
| >>the
| >>| >| >| >| SBS 2003
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| OS in another drive that was connected to the system long
enough
| >>to
| >>| >| >| >| cause a rebuild/repair on the original drive. The temp drive
was
| >>| >| >| >| removed and the original replaced in the system. The system
| >>booted
| >>| >ok
| >>| >| >| >| but GPO errors were noted. Since then, various efforts have
been
| >>| >made
| >>| >| >| >| to re-establish the settings for the system state. Only
system
| >>state
| >>| >| >| >| files availble are ones taken as a backup after the initial
| >>install.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| results of running Netdia at server:
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| ////////////////////////
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
| >>| >| >| >| (C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>netdiag
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| .....................................
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Computer Name: THORNHILL1
| >>| >| >| >| DNS Host Name: thornhill1.BRK.local
| >>| >| >| >| System info : Windows 2000 Server (Build 3790)
| >>| >| >| >| Processor : x86 Family 15 Model 5 Stepping 10,
AuthenticAMD
| >>| >| >| >| List of installed hotfixes :
| >>| >| >| >| Q147222
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Netcard queries test . . . . . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Per interface results:
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Adapter : Server Local Area Connection
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Netcard queries test . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Host Name. . . . . . . . . : thornhill1
| >>| >| >| >| IP Address . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.20
| >>| >| >| >| Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| >>| >| >| >| Default Gateway. . . . . . : 10.0.0.3
| >>| >| >| >| Primary WINS Server. . . . : 10.0.0.20
| >>| >| >| >| Dns Servers. . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.20
| >>| >| >| >| 4.2.2.1
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| AutoConfiguration results. . . . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Default gateway test . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| NetBT name test. . . . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >| [WARNING] At least one of the <00> 'WorkStation
| >>Service',
| >>| ><03>
| >>| >| >| >| 'Messenger Service', <20> 'WINS'
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| names is missing.
| >>| >| >| >| No remote names have been found.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| WINS service test. . . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Global results:
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Domain membership test . . . . . . : Failed
| >>| >| >| >| [WARNING] Ths system volume has not been completely
| >>replicated
| >>| >to
| >>| >| >| >| the local machine. This machine is
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| not working properly as a DC.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| NetBT transports test. . . . . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >| List of NetBt transports currently configured:
| >>| >| >| >| NetBT_Tcpip_{671FBE3B-DF2F-4666-9448-8DB80F7A26DD}
| >>| >| >| >| 1 NetBt transport currently configured.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Autonet address test . . . . . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| IP loopback ping test. . . . . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Default gateway test . . . . . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| NetBT name test. . . . . . . . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >| [WARNING] You don't have a single interface with the <00>
| >>| >| >| >| 'WorkStation Service', <03> 'Messenger
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Service', <20> 'WINS' names defined.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Winsock test . . . . . . . . . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| DNS test . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >| PASS - All the DNS entries for DC are registered on DNS
| >>server
| >>| >| >| >| '10.0.0.20'.
| >>| >| >| >| [WARNING] The DNS entries for this DC are not registered
| >>| >correctly
| >>| >| >| >| on DNS server '4.2.2.1'. Please
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| wait for 30 minutes for DNS server replication.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Redir and Browser test . . . . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >| List of NetBt transports currently bound to the Redir
| >>| >| >| >| NetBT_Tcpip_{671FBE3B-DF2F-4666-9448-8DB80F7A26DD}
| >>| >| >| >| The redir is bound to 1 NetBt transport.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| List of NetBt transports currently bound to the browser
| >>| >| >| >| NetBT_Tcpip_{671FBE3B-DF2F-4666-9448-8DB80F7A26DD}
| >>| >| >| >| The browser is bound to 1 NetBt transport.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| DC discovery test. . . . . . . . . : Failed
| >>| >| >| >| [FATAL] Cannot find DC in domain 'BRK'.
| >>| >[ERROR_NO_SUCH_DOMAIN]
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| DC list test . . . . . . . . . . . : Failed
| >>| >| >| >| 'BRK': Cannot find DC to get DC list from [test
skipped].
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Trust relationship test. . . . . . : Skipped
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Kerberos test. . . . . . . . . . . : Skipped
| >>| >| >| >| 'BRK': Cannot find DC to get DC list from [test
skipped].
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| LDAP test. . . . . . . . . . . . . : Failed
| >>| >| >| >| Cannot find DC to run LDAP tests on. The error occurred
was:
| >>The
| >>| >| >| >| specified domain either does not
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| exist or could not be contacted.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| [WARNING] Cannot find DC in domain 'BRK'.
| >>| >| >| >| [ERROR_NO_SUCH_DOMAIN]
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Bindings test. . . . . . . . . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| WAN configuration test . . . . . . : Skipped
| >>| >| >| >| No active remote access connections.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Modem diagnostics test . . . . . . : Passed
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| IP Security test . . . . . . . . . : Skipped
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Note: run "netsh ipsec dynamic show /?" for more detailed
| >>| >| >| >| information
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| The command completed successfully
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>gpupdate
| >>| >| >| >| Refreshing Policy...
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| User Policy Refresh has completed.
| >>| >| >| >| Computer Policy Refresh has completed.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| To check for errors in policy processing, review the event
log.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
| >>| >| >| >| ///////////////////////////////
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Users (2) can still log in and gain access to Exchange
server,
| >>| >| >| >| although I'm not sure how.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Because the DC is not recognized in the domain, continue to
get
| >>| >1030 &
| >>| >| >| >| 1006 errors. Also, FRS reports JRNL_WRAP-ERROR 13561 after
13516
| >>| >| >| >| 13501 133503 13502. (attempted to do a gpupdate cmd). This
makes
| >>| >sense
| >>| >| >| >| if it can't contact the DC.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| I tried to verify that I could access the DC at
| >>| >| >| >| \\brk.local\sysvol\brk.local and received a response that
| >>| >| >| >| configuration information was not available because the DC
was
| >>not
| >>| >| >| >| accessible. How do I correct this? This seems to be the
major
| >>cause
| >>| >of
| >>| >| >| >| the problems.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| I've read through 887303 (in summary, 1-4 are ok, 5-7 I
don't
| >>know
| >>| >how
| >>| >| >| >| to do). At Step five: using net share, can't locate SYSVOL
and
| >>| >| >| >| NETLOGON in the list of folders.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| In 315457, a list of folders for SYSVOL includes \domain and
| >>| >| >| >| \SYSVOL\SYSVOL. When I check \sysvol with Explorer, these
| >>| >directories
| >>| >| >| >| are missing.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Can any of these be restored from the Windows system tools
| >>backup
| >>| >| >| >| that saved the system state files following the initial
| >>| >installation?
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| Thanks for your inputs.
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| AJ
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 03:46:08 GMT,
v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>| >| >| >| ("Charles Yang [MSFT]") wrote:
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| >HI AJ,
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >Welcome to SBS newsgroup.
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >I am sorry for the delayed response due to weekend. Please
| >>| >understand
| >>| >| >| >that
| >>| >| >| >| >the newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support
| >>| >| >professionals
| >>| >| >| >to
| >>| >| >| >| >answer your systems and applications questions. Your
| >>understanding
| >>| >is
| >>| >| >| >| >greatly appreciated!
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >Issue description:
| >>| >| >| >| >=============
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >I understand that you encountered 1030 and 1058 error after
a
| >>CMOS
| >>| >| >| >changed
| >>| >| >| >| >and boot file lost even you use the repair function on SBS
2003.
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >Analyzing and suggestion:
| >>| >| >| >| >============
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >Before we go any further, please understand that the repair
| >>| >function
| >>| >| >| >might
| >>| >| >| >| >not repair all the problems. If this is the serious issue,
you
| >>| >might
| >>| >| >| >have
| >>| >| >| >| >to call CSS for urgency help. You can refer to information
| >>below:
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >To obtain the phone numbers for specific technology request
| >>please
| >>| >| >take
| >>| >| >| >a
| >>| >| >| >| >look at the web site listed below.
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-US;PHONENUMBERS
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >If you are outside the US please see
| >>http://support.microsoft.com
| >>| >for
| >>| >| >| >| >regional support phone numbers.
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >Here I would like to give you some general suggestion on
the
| >>1030
| >>| >and
| >>| >| >| >1058
| >>| >| >| >| >error.
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >1. Examine the DNS settings and network properties on the
| >>servers
| >>| >and
| >>| >| >| >| >client computers, make sure that there is only one DNS
entries
| >>in
| >>| >the
| >>| >| >| >| >TCP/IP properties, it need to point to the SBS internal
NIC.
| >>Add
| >>| >the
| >>| >| >ISP
| >>| >| >| >| >DNS server as forward DNS server when run CEICW. Refer to
the
| >>KB
| >>| >| >article
| >>| >| >| >| >below for more information:
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >825763 How to configure Internet access in Windows Small
| >>Business
| >>| >| >Server
| >>| >| >| >| >2003
| >>| >| >| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825763
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >2. Examine the Server Message Block signing settings on the
| >>client
| >>| >| >| >| >computers. You can refer to the KB article below for SMB
| >>signing:
| >>| >| >| >| >3. Make sure that the TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service, the
Net
| >>Logon
| >>| >| >| >service,
| >>| >| >| >| >and the Remote Procedure Call (RPC) service are started on
all
| >>| >| >| >computers.
| >>| >| >| >| >4. Make sure that Distributed File System (DFS) is enabled
on
| >>all
| >>| >| >| >computers.
| >>| >| >| >| >5. Examine the contents and the permissions of the Sysvol
| >>folder.
| >>| >| >Make
| >>| >| >| >sure
| >>| >| >| >| >that the domain administrator local system services and
network
| >>| >| >services
| >>| >| >| >| >have full control permission.
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >6. Run the dfsutil /purgemupcache command.
| >>| >| >| >| >7. We have some known issue on that NICs, You can refer to
the
| >>KB
| >>| >| >| >article
| >>| >| >| >| >below to disable the media sense on your Intel NIC to see
if
| >>the
| >>| >| >issue
| >>| >| >| >can
| >>| >| >| >| >be cleared.
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >326152 PRB: Cannot Connect to Domain Controller and Cannot
| >>Apply
| >>| >| >Group
| >>| >| >| >| >Policy
| >>| >| >| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/?id=326152
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >239924 How to disable Media Sense for TCP/IP in Windows
| >>| >| >| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/?id=239924
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >More info:
| >>| >| >| >| >============
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >887303 Applying Group Policy causes Userenv errors and
events
| >>to
| >>| >| >occur
| >>| >| >| >on
| >>| >| >| >| >your
| >>| >| >| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/?id=887303
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >842804:Group Policy processing does not work and events
1030
| >>and
| >>| >1058
| >>| >| >are
| >>| >| >| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/?id=842804
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >I appreciate your understanding on this issue, please feel
free
| >>to
| >>| >| >post
| >>| >| >| >| >back the results. I am glad to be of further assistance.
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >Best regards,
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >Charles Yang (MSFT)
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >======================================================
| >>| >| >| >| >This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you
| >>have
| >>| >| >issues
| >>| >| >| >| >regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in
the
| >>| >| >| >corresponding
| >>| >| >| >| >newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and
| >>timely
| >>| >| >| >manner.
| >>| >| >| >| >You can locate the newsgroup here:
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>>http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >When opening a new thread via the web interface, we
recommend
| >>you
| >>| >| >check
| >>| >| >| >the
| >>| >| >| >| >"Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications
when
| >>| >there
| >>| >| >| >are
| >>| >| >| >| >any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via
your
| >>| >| >| >newsreader,
| >>| >| >| >| >please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and
benefit
| >>from
| >>| >| >your
| >>| >| >| >| >issue.
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread.
| >>| >Although
| >>| >| >we
| >>| >| >| >| >provide other information for your reference, we recommend
you
| >>| >post
| >>| >| >| >| >different incidents in different threads to keep the thread
| >>clean.
| >>| >In
| >>| >| >| >doing
| >>| >| >| >| >so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely
manner.
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS
| >>directly.
| >>| >| >| >Please
| >>| >| >| >| >check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support
phone
| >>| >numbers.
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| >>| >| >| >| >======================================================
| >>| >| >| >| >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
| >>confers
| >>| >no
| >>| >| >| >rights.
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >=====================================================
| >>| >| >| >| >When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your
| >>| >newsreader
| >>| >| >so
| >>| >| >| >| >that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
| >>| >| >| >| >=====================================================
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
| >>confers
| >>| >no
| >>| >| >| >rights.
| >>| >| >| >| >
| >>| >| >| >| >--------------------
| >>| >| >| >| >| NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:30:41 -0600
| >>| >| >| >| >| From: AJ <aj_king7@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>| >| >| >| >| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| >>| >| >| >| >| Subject: SBS2003 - Cannot restore GPO following Article
| >>888943
| >>| >| >| >| >| Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:36:23 -0500
| >>| >| >| >| >| Organization: IveBeenMoved
| >>| >| >| >| >| Message-ID: <np32p11ap2jha9v8fge24ar3e2f0hqpaul@xxxxxxx>
| >>| >| >| >| >| X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652
| >>| >| >| >| >| MIME-Version: 1.0
| >>| >| >| >| >| Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
| >>| >| >| >| >| Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| >>| >| >| >| >| Lines: 54
| >>| >| >| >| >| NNTP-Posting-Host: 72.56.43.183
| >>| >| >| >| >| X-Trace:
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >|
| >>|
|
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| >>5
| >>| >R
| >>| >| >1
| >>| >| >| >R
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >|
| >>|
|
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| >>| >| >| >Y
| >>| >| >| >| >UIKsNL7e!GFSp5/c=
| >>| >| >| >| >| X-Complaints-To: abuse@xxxxxxxxxx
| >>| >| >| >| >| X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@xxxxxxxxxx
| >>| >| >| >| >| X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy
of
| >>ALL
| >>| >| >headers
| >>| >| >| >| >| X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to
process
| >>| >your
| >>| >| >| >| >complaint properly
| >>| >| >| >| >| X-Postfilter: 1.3.32
| >>| >| >| >| >| Path:
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >|
| >>|
|
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t-
| >>o
| >>| >n
| >>| >| >l
| >>| >| >| >i
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >|
| >>|
|
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| >>a
| >>| >l
| >>| >| >0
| >>| >| >| >1
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >|
| >>|
|
>>>>>>.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.rogers.com!news.rogers.com.POSTED!not-for-
ma
| >>i
| >>| >l
| >>| >| >| >| >| Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl
| >>| >| >microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:227416
| >>| >| >| >| >| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| >>| >| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| >| We've had a system lockup. CMOS settings changed by
| >>motherboard
| >>| >and
| >>| >| >| >| >| lost files on boot drive. Did a system repair from a
| >>| >install/repair.
| >>| >| >| >| >| Now have the system up and running, but... getting Event
1030
| >>&
| >>| >| >event
| >>| >| >| >| >| 1058 every 5 minutes. The Group Policy snap-in starts,
but
| >>can't
| >>| >| >| >| >| repair Group Policy Objects (trying to follow Article ID
| >>| >88894-3).
| >>| >| >| >| >| Here's the messages in the Application Error log files:
| >>| >| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| >| Event Type: Error
| >>| >| >| >| >| Event Source: Userenv
| >>| >| >| >| >| Event Category: None
| >>| >| >| >| >| Event ID: 1058
| >>| >| >| >| >| Date: 02/12/2005
| >>| >| >| >| >| Time: 12:09:48 PM
| >>| >| >| >| >| User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
| >>| >| >| >| >| Computer: SERVER1
| >>| >| >| >| >| Description:
| >>| >| >| >| >| Windows cannot access the file gpt.ini for GPO
| >>| >| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >|
| >>|
|
>>>>>>CN={31B2F340-016D-11D2-945F-00C04FB984F9},CN=Policies,CN=System,DC=BRK
,D
| >>C
| >>| >=
| >>| >| >l
| >>| >| >| >o
| >>| >| >| >| >cal.
| >>| >| >| >| >| The file must be present at the location
| >>| >| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >|
| >>|
|
>>>>>><\\company.local\sysvol\company.local\Policies\{31B2F340-016D-11D2-945
F-
| >>0
| >>| >0
| >>| >| >C
| >>| >| >| >0
| >>| >| >| >| >4FB984F9}\gpt.ini>.
| >>| >| >| >| >| (Configuration information could not be read from the
domain
| >>| >| >| >| >| controller, either because the machine is unavailable, or
| >>access
| >>| >has
| >>| >| >| >| >| been denied. ). Group Policy processing aborted.
| >>| >| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| >| For more information, see Help and Support Center at
| >>| >| >| >| >| http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
| >>| >| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| >| Event Type: Error
| >>| >| >| >| >| Event Source: Userenv
| >>| >| >| >| >| Event Category: None
| >>| >| >| >| >| Event ID: 1030
| >>| >| >| >| >| Date: 02/12/2005
| >>| >| >| >| >| Time: 12:09:48 PM
| >>| >| >| >| >| User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
| >>| >| >| >| >| Computer: SERVER1
| >>| >| >| >| >| Description:
| >>| >| >| >| >| Windows cannot query for the list of Group Policy
objects.
| >>Check
| >>| >the
| >>| >| >| >| >| event log for possible messages previously logged by the
| >>policy
| >>| >| >engine
| >>| >| >| >| >| that describes the reason for this.
| >>| >| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| >| For more information, see Help and Support Center at
| >>| >| >| >| >| http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
| >>| >| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| >| The system root appears to be correct and the path to the
| >>sysvol
| >>| >is
| >>| >| >| >| >| correct. The DC is not being replaced by a
Random_Domain_Name
| >>as
| >>| >per
| >>| >| >| >| >| the article. However, there's no policy.
| >>| >| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| >| Do I need to reset GPO to the Default settings in order
to
| >>get
| >>| >to a
| >>| >| >| >| >| base starting point?
| >>| >| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| >| Any suggestions would be appreciated.
| >>| >| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >| >| Thanks.
| >>| >| >| >| >| AJ
| >>| >| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >| >|
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >| >|
| >>| >|
| >>| >|
| >>|
| >>|
|
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