Re: Equipment and infrastructure help
- From: "Keith" <pqleer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:09:37 -0500
Thanks for the links, Brandy! I appreciate your response. I have been to
all those sites and read the information, except for the Windows Powered NAS
stuff. That was good. Thanks. The rest of the info is more detailed and I
am not in that stage of implementation, yet. I'm in the planning stage and
would like an overview of how to structure my network. You mentioned life
cycle. Well, that's why I'm planning an upgrade. Two of the four servers
will be out of warranty next year (4th qtr); the other two are older. The
switches and hubs are old, 100 Mbps devices. The room where they're located
is dirty and hot. I'm wanting to create a plan of attack to transition from
this to the optimal setup. Defining the optimal setup is where I am
struggling. Some have advised splitting up SBS to individual components,
each on its own server. I don't have that kind of money. That would be
overkill, too. SBS works well for us in the sense that many software
products (anti-virus, backup, etc) have an SBS version which is MUCH more
reasonable to license. I also wear several other 'hats' around here, so
managing multiple servers is not my idea of 'the KISS principle'. :^)
Basically, I have about 25-30 users using email and the internet.
Additionally, users store their data on network drives. The accounting
stuff is on another computer running a Progress database.I figure SBS will
handle the email and internet stuff. I'm not using SQL Server right now,
so I may just get the Standard Edition of SBS. I want to use the SharePoint
stuff in SBS2K3, so should I get the Premium edition to get the Front Page
software? If I get a NAS device for the file storage, do I need another
server to control it? When I visited the Windows Powered NAS link you
provided, I watched the flash demo on that page. The third slide shows what
I think I want. :^)
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/storage/fileserverconsolidation/presentations/WP_NAS_deployment_scenarios.html
But all this stuff - the whole design - has to work together when I'm
finished. Being a mile wide and an inch deep in knowledge, I'm afraid I'll
make the wrong choices.
Thanks,
Keith
""Brandy Nee [MSFT]"" <v-branee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:tnZdGVH$FHA.1236@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hello Keith,
>
> Thank you for posting to the SBS Newsgroup.
>
> I understand that you want to set up a new SBS 2K3 Server and reconfigure
> your Network. Please take your time to read my suggestions and information
> below:
>
> 1> In your post, you mentioned "Another server is an old Dell box with
> WinNT Server, perhaps with an old SBS". Please understand that ONE Windows
> Small Business Server Per Domain. There cab only be one Windows Small
> Business Server in the Windows Small Business Server domain, and you
> cannot
> establish any type of trust between the Small Business Server domain and
> any other domain.
>
> 2> To upgrade SBS 2K Server, please see:
>
> Since you are running SBS 2K Server, you can choose to either upgrade the
> server or complete a migration to a new server:
>
> What's New for Windows Small Business Server 2003 with Service Pack 1
> Chapter 3B Upgrade Small Business Server 2000
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sbs/2003/plan/gsg/chptr3b.mspx
>
> Migrating from Small Business Server 2000 or Windows 2000 Server to
> Windows
> Small Business Server 2003
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/d/c/6dccf9b4-d915-4c95-b5af-100b89e
> 02add/SBS_MigratingSBS2k.doc
>
> For more information, please see:
>
> How to Upgrade to Windows Small Business Server 2003
> http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsServer2003/sbs/upgrade/default.mspx
>
> Just a kindly reminder, we DO NOT support Windows NT which has ended the
> support lifecycles any more. Please see:
>
> Microsoft Support Lifecycle
> http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/
>
> 3> I understand that you do not plan to use tape to store Backup.
>
> Based on my experience, I have seen some issues that the backup runner of
> SBS 2k3 have compatible problem with network storage device. Regarding
> this
> issue, I suggest you make sure that the NAS device is in the Windows 2003
> hardware compatible list. You could check the HCL list in the following
> links
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hcl/default.mspx
>
> SBS Backup does not support backing up to mapped drives. The recommended
> way to do this would be to backup to a UNC path. However, when backing up
> to UNC path, the share must be part of the SBS domain with the correct
> permissions. I know some of the NAS devices let you enter the domain name
> or the workgroup name when you are configuring them. But even if you can
> join it to the domain you have to ensure that the file system on the NAS
> device allows you to store large backup files and allows you to set the
> correct permissions so that backup can write to the device.
>
> 4> NAS information:
>
> Windows Powered Network Attached Storage - Overview
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/wpnas/productinformation/overvi
> ew/default.mspx
>
> Improving Business Continuity Using Windows Powered NAS Devices
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/wpnas/productinformation/whitep
> apers/nasbusinesscont.mspx
>
> How to install Windows 2003 Storage Edition in NAS system
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;555211
>
> 5> For your additional information:
>
> Planning for Windows Small Business Server 2003
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/techinfo/planning/default.msp
> x
>
> What's New for Windows SBS 2003 with Service Pack 1
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=B5846A14-F306-41F0-
> 9D1F-97F615E62ADF&displaylang=en
>
> Administration for Windows Small Business Server 2003
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/techinfo/administration/defau
> lt.mspx
>
> hope this information helps. If you have any further questions or concern,
> please feel free to let me know. I am glad to be of further assistance!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandy Nee
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>>From: "Keith" <pqleer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Equipment and infrastructure help
>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:37:01 -0500
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>>Would someone give me an idea where to post for help in identifying
>>equipment and infrastructure needs?
>>
>>My 'server' systems include a SBS 2000 machine for the communications in
> the
>>company. A file server with W2K Server also runs the license server for a
>>CAD viewing software, and is the second domain controller in our Active
>>Directory. Another server is an old Dell box with WinNT Server, perhaps
>>with an old SBS, but is only used for non-critical files. Another
> computer
>>runs WinNT Workstation and runs a Progress database application.
>>
>>I'd like to replace my 'server' systems (all will be at least 5 yrs old
> next
>>year) but would like to improve the infrastructure while I'm doing it.
> For
>>example, I know I want a new server with SBS2003 pre-installed, if
> possible,
>>but I want to upgrade to gigabit switches, too. I'm thinking it would be
>>possible to move the file server's data to a NAS device, then move the
>>non-critical files to my current file server or to the NAS, too. I'd like
>>to use the 'snapshot' technology to do backups to disk. I don't know if
>>it's possible, though, to configure a NAS (or whatever) to house the data
> in
>>one part, and create backups of the data in another part. For disaster
>>recovery / offsite storage, I am considering putting in a smaller NAS at
>>home and configuring it to mirror the backup part of the data. I don't
> want
>>tapes. I've looked at a few solutions with removable drives for offsite
>>backups. I'd like whatever solution to be wired so that the backups would
>>not cause interference with the network bandwidth, although with gigabit
>>speeds, I probably wouldn't notice a difference, would I?
>>
>>Obviously I'm no expert. But by sharing what I'm thinking, maybe someone
>>could point me to the correct newsgroup or links for more help. This
> major
>>project is probably a small task for many of you. I'd appreciate any help
>>you would share.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Keith
>>
>>
>>
>
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