Re: Remote Client Configuration



HI Chris,

Thanks for updates.

Just to see if you have any further concerns on this issue, please feel
free to let me know. I am happy to help you.

Thanks for your time on this issue:)

Have a nice day!


Best regards,

Charles Yang (MSFT)

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| From: "Chris Guimbellot" <cguimbellot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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| Charles,
|
| I appreciate all the help. I will have them mail in their machines
beginning
| tomorrow.
|
| Chris
|
| ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" <v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > HI Chris,
| >
| > Thanks for quickly updates.
| >
| > Just as I know, if you only logon the domain with cache credential, the
| > group policy will not be updates, instead it will use the old policy
that
| > just applied last time. There should be no problem, but we suggest you
use
| > dial up VPN connection to logon SBS domain once-in-a-while for the group
| > policy refresh.
| >
| > If you create a separate OU for the WSUS user and you want the policy
| > applied immediately it is your best interest to run gpupdate or the
policy
| > will be applied every 90 min through slow WAN link for reducing the
| > network
| > traffic. But we do not recommend to run WSUS policy through WAN link, it
| > might cause a lot network traffic, maybe it will encounter some
unexpected
| > network error when doing updates. (Please note that if the slow link is
| > detected, some of the policy will not be applied immediately, instead
they
| > will be applied after the user logon in order to reduce the logon
process.
| > You can also run gpupdate to force the new policy apply)
| >
| > For your last question, I think it is your best interest to let all the
| > laptop to connect to SBS domain first; currently we have no other better
| > workaround. I am sorry for any inconvenience.
| >
| > Hope the above information helpful; please feel free to post back if you
| > have any further concerns. I am glad to be of assistance.
| >
| >
| >
| > Best regards,
| >
| > Charles Yang (MSFT)
| >
| > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >
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| > | Charles,
| > |
| > | Once again, thanks for your response. I will look at these profile and
| > | offline file issues. It looks like they are going to have to log into
| > the
| > | network using dial-up at least every once-in-a-while to get the
profile
| > and
| > | GPO settings up to date. You also mentioned that if "logon is done
with
| > | cached credentials, and then a remote access connection is
established,
| > | Group Policy is not applied during logon". Does that mean that no
group
| > | policy is applied, or just the policy that goes into effect when the
| > user
| > | logs onto the domain. IE, if I create a separate OU for remote users
for
| > | WSUS (to have them log straight into the Windows Update server
instead
| > of
| > my
| > | local WSUS), will those settings filter down to the notebooks if they
| > are
| > | VPN'ed in for enough time (the 90 minutes plus offset time) or if they
| > run
| > | gpupdate? I am just trying to figure out how much management I can
get
| > on
| > | these remote clients.
| > |
| > | In regards to the initial setup, I am thinking that they will have to
| > send
| > | the laptops in so I can get the initial configurations done. Is this
| > | correct? If so, it will be a pain, but I guess that's all there is to
| > it.
| > |
| > | I appreciate the continued help. Thanks again,
| > |
| > | Chris
| > |
| > | ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" <v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message
| > | news:2tNGRIx9FHA.1236@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > HI Chris,
| > | >
| > | > Thanks for detailed updates.
| > | >
| > | > From your description, it seems you want to know if it is possible
to
| > join
| > | > the client computer to the SBS domain via connect computer wizard
| > | > remotely.
| > | > After confirm with our SP, I am sorry for some wrong information,
you
| > have
| > | > to put the laptop to the local network then join to the SBS domain,
| > then
| > | > next time you can logon the SBS domain with your current user name
and
| > | > password, this should be cache credential logon, this will enable
the
| > | > remote user logon to SBS domain without a DC exists.
| > | >
| > | > It seems you also have some concerns on the GPO updates issue and
| > roaming
| > | > profile updates issue. Now let me clarify the issue more clearly,
for
| > the
| > | > roaming profile, it will be store on the SBS server instead of
storing
| > on
| > | > each client computer, so it is convenient for administrator to
backup
| > and
| > | > manage the profile, when you logon the SBS domain but not within
the
| > SBS
| > | > local network or via dial up VPN connection, you will use an local
| > copy
| > on
| > | > roaming profile on the temp folder.
| > | >
| > | > When the logon is done with cached credentials, and then a remote
| > access
| > | > connection is established, Group Policy is not applied during
logon.
| > For
| > | > example, if users connecting through a VPN connection are logging
in
| > via
| > | > cached credentials, folder redirection settings will not be
processed,
| > | > because folder redirection policy can only be processed at user
logon,
| > not
| > | > in the background refresh.
| > | >
| > | > For group policy issue, we suggest you refer to the following KB
| > article,
| > | > it will help you understand the issue more clearly:
| > | >
| > | > 227260 How a Slow Link Is Detected for Processing User Profiles and
| > Group
| > | > Policy
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=227260
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > 227369 Default Behavior for Group Policy Extensions with Slow Link
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=227369
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > 842007 You experience synchronization problems if you do not
disable
| > the
| > | > cache
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=842007
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > So the user's roaming profile will be only sync when using a dial
up
| > VPN
| > | > connection or connect to the local network. But you do not need to
| > worry
| > | > about that, all the thing include the GPO and profile will be
updates
| > | > then.
| > | >
| > | > For the offline folder it is different from the roaming profile, it
| > can
| > be
| > | > sync any time the shared folder is available for the remote
computer.
| > | >
| > | > Hope the above information helpful for your issue. I am glad to be
of
| > | > assistance. Sorry for any inconvenience.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Best regards,
| > | >
| > | > Charles Yang (MSFT)
| > | >
| > | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | >
| > | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
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| > | > | Charles,
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanks for the response, my replies are below. Also, I wanted to
let
| > you
| > | > | know that I have a notebook here that is configured just as my
| > traveling
| > | > | employees and is not connected to the physical LAN in the office
(I
| > am
| > | > using
| > | > | Verizon too), so I can simulate the changes we try without
wasting
| > my
| > | > guys'
| > | > | time.
| > | > |
| > | > | > Before we go any further, we need to know how you plan to
connect
| > the
| > | > | > remote computer to SBS 2003 domain via VPN connection after the
| > remote
| > | > | > user
| > | > | > logon the remote computer locally or connect the SBS domain via
| > dial
| > | > in
| > | > | > VPN
| > | > | > connection when user logon to the remote computer.
| > | > |
| > | > | > Here I assume that you want to use a dial in VPN connection to
| > connect
| > | > the
| > | > | > remote computer with SBS local network.
| > | > |
| > | > | Actually, my users currently connect by logging on to the computer
| > (with
| > | > the
| > | > | domain listed in the "Log in to:" drop-down on the login screen),
| > but
| > | > not
| > | > | clicking on the "Log on using dial up connection". They dont
| > actually
| > | > | connect using the VPN until after they are logged an and have
| > | > established
| > | > | their connection to the internet. The reason I have them log in
that
| > way
| > | > is
| > | > | so they dont have to have an internet connection to use their
| > computers.
| > | > I
| > | > | like for them to be able to get to those offline folders and use
the
| > | > | software without having to log in over that slow connection. They
| > only
| > | > log
| > | > | in when it is time to synchronize their offline files or their
email
| > | > with
| > | > | the Exchange server.
| > | > |
| > | > | That said, most of your solutions dont apply to me (at least I
| > think),
| > | > | unless there is a way to update group policy, roaming user
profiles,
| > | > etc.
| > | > | after establishing the VPN connection.
| > | > |
| > | > | > If so the steps you mentioned first is right on target you can
| > follow
| > | > that
| > | > | > steps to join the remote computer to SBS domain. For your
concerns
| > | > about
| > | > | > the question, please refer to my answer one by one:
| > | > |
| > | > | I dont think that the Network Configuration website would work to
| > | > connect
| > | > to
| > | > | the network (either for logging into the network using "log on
using
| > | > dial-up
| > | > | networking"or logging in locally then establishing the VPN. The
| > reason I
| > | > say
| > | > | that is because when I logged in to a test notebook then
established
| > the
| > | > | VPN, when I tried to run the Network Configuration website, I
| > received
| > | > the
| > | > | following error: "The Small Business Server Network Configuration
| > Wizard
| > | > | will only run over a Local Area Network connection. Deactivate any
| > | > dial-up
| > | > | or virtual private network (VPN) connections, connect the client
| > | > computer
| > | > to
| > | > | the server using a Local Area Connection, and try again.
| > | > |
| > | > | That said, how should I have them join the network? I tried to
| > change
| > | > the
| > | > | network under "Computer Name Changes" after logging in to the VPN,
| > and
| > | > it
| > | > | worked. The problem is that when I tried to log back in, it would
| > not
| > | > let
| > | > me
| > | > | into the domain because it could not find my user account. Then,
| > when
| > I
| > | > | tried to change the Log on to dropdown to the local computer, it
| > gets
| > | > this
| > | > | box that says "Please wait while the domain list is created" and
it
| > | > takes
| > | > | forever to go away.
| > | > |
| > | > | The only way I think I would be able to get around that would be
to
| > have
| > | > | them log in using a dial-up connection, but then it would have to
| > dial
| > | > | Verizon, then the VPN. It seems like at that point it would be
| > getting
| > | > too
| > | > | complicated for me to guide my user through over the phone. What
do
| > you
| > | > | think?
| > | > |
| > | > | There is also the "Create Remote Connection Disk". It looks like
all
| > | > that
| > | > | does is install the "Connect to Small Business Server" VPN-like
| > | > connection.
| > | > | This has nothing to do with connecting these computers to the
| > network
| > | > does
| > | > | it?
| > | > |
| > | > | One thing I have heard would be a possibility is to have the
| > computer
| > | > | changed from a domain to a workgroup with the same name. Does that
| > seem
| > | > like
| > | > | something that might work here? If so, how does it effect my other
| > | > issues?
| > | > |
| > | > | > 1. Will the offline files will be gone when the user logs back
on?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Based on my research, the offline file is not depend on which OS
| > | > system,
| > | > | > so
| > | > | > if the shared folder is still available on SBS 2003 domain
which
| > the
| > | > | > offline file is enabled when the user log back the offline file
| > will
| > | > not
| > | > | > disappear, if not you had to backup the offline file on the SBS
| > server
| > | > or
| > | > | > client side first then make it available on a server new shared
| > | > folder.
| > | > |
| > | > | It looks that way to me. I will verify when I start getting these
| > | > clients
| > | > | on. Thanks.
| > | > |
| > | > | > 2. Do they actually need the firewall client if they are never
in
| > the
| > | > | > building?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Firewall client will be useful for the client user as we do not
| > need
| > | > to
| > | > | > configure special packet filtering on the ISA server for those
| > client
| > | > | > computer, they can access the internet through SBS 2003 without
| > any
| > | > | > problem. But if they do not use the SBS server to access the
| > internet,
| > | > you
| > | > | > do not need to install the firewall client. It depends on if you
| > want
| > | > to
| > | > | > control the internet connection of remote user.
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanks for the explanation. I do not need them to access the
| > internet
| > | > | through the server. What I will do, is install the firewall
client
| > on
| > | > the
| > | > | users that do come in every few weeks and use their notebooks in
the
| > | > office
| > | > | so that they wont have any problems.
| > | > |
| > | > | > 3. What happens to their current profile when they log onto the
| > new
| > | > | > network?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > As I know, when they log to the new domain, a new profile will
be
| > | > created,
| > | > | > it will not impact the original profile, however you can use
the
| > KB
| > | > | > article
| > | > | > below to restore the user profile and use it on the new SBS 2003
| > | > domain:
| > | > | >
| > | > | > 314045 HOW TO: Restore a User Profile in Windows 2000
| > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=314045
| > | > |
| > | > | I read the article and it looks easy enough. Thanks.
| > | > |
| > | > | > 4. What about Group Policy? I run WSUS and was thinking about
| > creating
| > | > a
| > | > | > new OU for the mobile users and setting WSUS to tell them to get
| > their
| > | > | > updates direct from Windows Update servers.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Generally speaking, as you want to deploy the group policy for
the
| > | > remote
| > | > | > user, it is possible to do that, due to the network speed
issue,
| > we
| > | > | > suggest
| > | > | > you refer to the article below to set a slow link for remote
| > computer
| > | > when
| > | > | > deploy group policy, it might reduce the network traffic and
make
| > the
| > | > | > logon
| > | > | > process more effectively:
| > | > | >
| > | > | > 819108 Settings for minimizing periodic WAN traffic
| > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=819108
| > | > | >
| > | > | > 811525 Configure Slow Link Speed Group Policy does not force
| > offline
| > | > files
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=811525
| > | > |
| > | > | Glad you pointed me to this article. From this article as well as
my
| > | > other
| > | > | research, it looks like no matter whether you log into the domain
or
| > you
| > | > log
| > | > | into a local profile and connect via the VPN, as long as the
| > computer
| > is
| > | > a
| > | > | member of the domain, group policy will refresh. Thats good to
know.
| > I
| > | > guess
| > | > | that I shouldnt even consider configuring these things in a
| > workgroup
| > | > | setting.
| > | > |
| > | > | Also, how can you tell that the slow link is working for the
offline
| > | > files?
| > | > | It seems that when I connect to the VPN, after a few seconds, I am
| > | > working
| > | > | online, then when I disconnect, I an then working offline. I cant
| > think
| > | > of a
| > | > | time that when I was on a slow network, it didnt tell me I was
| > online
| > as
| > | > | long as I was connected to the VPN.
| > | > |
| > | > | .> 5. What is the difference between Connection Manager and the
VPN
| > they
| > | > | > already have installed?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Both are VPN connection, just as I said the VPN they already
| > installed
| > | > | > might be a dial in VPN connection, but the connection management
| > | > should
| > | > be
| > | > | > considered as a VPN connection that you can use the remote
| > computer
| > to
| > | > | > logon locally then establish the VPN connection via the
connection
| > | > | > management. There are not so many difference between them.
| > | > |
| > | > | Looks that way to me too. Thanks for the clarification.
| > | > |
| > | > | > 6. Should I use Roaming User Profiles like I have for the other
| > users?
| > | > If
| > | > | > so, how do they update to the server?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > You can use roaming profile, they will update with the server
| > profile
| > | > as
| > | > | > the local network user, however if you enable the slow link for
| > group
| > | > | > policy we may have some special design for sync the profile
with
| > SBS
| > | > | > server
| > | > | > for optimize the network traffic on the slow WAN link., you can
| > refer
| > | > to
| > | > | > the article below:
| > | > | >
| > | > | > 227260 How a Slow Link Is Detected for Processing User Profiles
| > and
| > | > Group
| > | > | > Policy
| > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=227260
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanks, here I learned how to configure the slow link via GPO, a
| > | > question
| > | > I
| > | > | had after reading 811525.
| > | > |
| > | > | It seems though that the only way to update the roaming profile
is
| > by
| > | > | logging into the network instrad of being able to snchronize. Is
| > there
| > | > | anyway, that the users could "upload" or "synchronize" their
| > profiles
| > | > with
| > | > | the server without having to log on using a dial up connection?
| > | > |
| > | > | > For more information, I suggest you refer to the SBS website for
| > the
| > | > SBS
| > | > | > documents about deploying the SBS 2003 domain.
| > | > | >
| > | > | This assumes that you log into the domain> Further information:
| > | > | >
| > | > | > When configure SBS 2003 domain, the most effective wizard
should
| > be
| > | > CEICW,
| > | > | > do not forget to use, it will save you a lot of time.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > 825763 How to configure Internet access in Windows Small
Business
| > | > Server
| > | > | > 2003
| > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825763
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Hope the above information helpful enough to your issue. I
really
| > | > | > appreciate your effort on this issue, please feel free to let me
| > know
| > | > the
| > | > | > results.
| > | > |
| > | > | I appreciate all of your help and look forward to your response.
| > | > |
| > | > | Chris
| > | > |
| > | > | > | From: "Chris Guimbellot"
| > <cguimbellot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | Subject: Remote Client Configuration
| > | > | > | Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:24:36 -0500
| > | > | > | Lines: 53
| > | > | > | X-Priority: 3
| > | > | > | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| > | > | > | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670
| > | > | > | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
| > | > | > | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670
| > | > | > | Message-ID: <uF62xLd9FHA.2176@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > | > | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: mail.hospitality-international.com
| > 71.16.180.114
| > | > | > | Path:
| > | > TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl
| > | > | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl
| > | > microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:226731
| > | > | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Hello,
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | SBS2003, XP clients.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I had an SBS2000 network, but recently installed an SBS2003
box
| > and
| > | > put
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | old one to bed. The new server has the same server and domain
| > names
| > | > as
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | old one did. I was easily able to configure all of the clients
| > for
| > | > the
| > | > | > new
| > | > | > | network by running the Network Configuration website on the
| > server
| > | > | > | (http://servername.connectcomputer). Now it is time to set up
| > the
| > | > remote
| > | > | > | computers. That is where I am sort of lost. Here is the
| > situation: I
| > | > | > have
| > | > | > | about 7 mobile users (salesmen) using notebooks. They are
| > currently
| > | > set
| > | > | > up
| > | > | > | to log into the old SBS2K network. The use the internet,
| > OutlookXP
| > | > for
| > | > | > | email, and use offline files from departmental folders
located
| > on
| > | > the
| > | > | > | server. They connect to the server via VPN. My question is,
how
| > can
| > | > I
| > | > | > set
| > | > | > | them up on the new network? They connect via slow connections
| > | > (Verizon
| > | > | > | NationalAccess BroadbandAccess). I would think that
installing
| > the
| > | > | > client
| > | > | > | apps (namely Outlook 2003 and firewall client) could not work
on
| > | > such
| > | > a
| > | > | > slow
| > | > | > | connection. That said, here is what I was thinking about
doing:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | 1. Have them uninstall the old firewall client.
| > | > | > | 2. Have them VPN into the new server using their existing VPN
| > | > | > connection.
| > | > | > | 3. Run the Network Configuration website to join their
computer
| > to
| > | > the
| > | > | > | domain.
| > | > | > | 4. Upon restart, have them install Outlook 2003, the new
| > Firewall
| > | > | > Client,
| > | > | > | and the Connection Manager via a CD I send them.
| > | > | > | 5. Have them install TrendMicro (oh yeah, they will be using
| > | > TrendMicro
| > | > | > CS)
| > | > | > | from the same CD.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Is this the correct way to perform the client setup. I am
| > worried
| > | > about
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > | few things:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | 1. Will the offline files will be gone when the user logs
back
| > on?
| > | > | > | 2. Do they actually need the firewall client if they are
never
| > in
| > | > the
| > | > | > | building?
| > | > | > | 3. What happens to their current profile when they log onto
the
| > new
| > | > | > network?
| > | > | > | 4. What about Group Policy? I run WSUS and was thinking about
| > | > creating a
| > | > | > new
| > | > | > | OU for the mobile users and setting WSUS to tell them to get
| > their
| > | > | > updates
| > | > | > | direct from Windows Update servers.
| > | > | > | 5. What is the difference between Connection Manager and the
VPN
| > | > they
| > | > | > | already have installed?
| > | > | > | 6. Should I use Roaming User Profiles like I have for the
other
| > | > users?
| > | > | > If
| > | > | > | so, how do they update to the server?
| > | > | > | 7. How many other issues have I not thought of?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I am trying to avoid having them send in their notebooks just
so
| > I
| > | > can
| > | > | > | configure them. There has to be some sort of guide out there
or
| > | > someone
| > | > | > with
| > | > | > | some war stories to share. If I have not been clear enough or
I
| > need
| > | > to
| > | > | > | provide more information, I would be happy to. I appreciate
any
| > | > | > responses.
| > | > | > | Thanks in advance,
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Chris
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
|
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|

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