Re: NTBackup on Windows Server 2003

Hi Allan,

Thanks for your update. I suggest that you take a look at the following KB
articles to get detail information to backup OS to a tape.

314844 How to schedule unattended backups by using a stand-alone tape
library
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314844

831740 You cannot add a free media identifier to a backup tape when you use
the Removable Storage command-line utility in Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;831740

Hope it helps. I am happy to be assistance of you!

Have a nice day!

Sincerely,

Jenny Wu
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>Reply-To: "Al Williams" <donotreplydirect@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>From: "Al Williams" <donotreplydirect@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>Subject: Re: NTBackup on Windows Server 2003
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>I can't believe it is this complicated just to append a backup to the
>current tape in the drive. How am I to this in a script?
>
>Note I tried getting the tape's name with "RSM view /TPHYSICAL_MEDIA
/C<tape
>drive guid>" but the string RSM returns appends a "- 1" to the name which
>makes it not work with the /T switch. This is a bug in my mind as the
name
>with the "- 1" is the side name, not the tape name.
>
>If I remove the "- 1", it works fine but I haven't figured out how to do
>that in a cmd file.
>
>--
>Allan Williams
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>""Jenny wu [MSFT]"" <v-yanniw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Hi Allan,
>>
>> Thanks for posting here!
>>
>> I am sorry for the delayed response due to weekend. Please understand
that
>> the newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals to
>> answer your systems and applications questions. Your understanding is
>> greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Based on my experience, you may get the incorrect GUID. I suggest you
>> follow below steps to test:
>>
>> To obtain GUID needed for NTBackup:
>>
>> 1. To find the GUID of your tape drive, type
>>
>> rsm view /tlibrary /guiddisplay
>>
>> 2. Extract GUID for physical_media with the following command:
>>
>> rsm view /tphysical_media /b /cgA2C51A3B13C74981A6E5B2BC7146DA5C
>>
>> where A2C51A3B13C74981A6E5B2BC7146DA5C is the GUID for the tape device
>> (and will be constant for each device)
>>
>> 3. Take the physical_media GUID obtained in Step 2 and use it with the
/cg
>> switch to obtain the GUID for the partition on the current tape:
>>
>> rsm view /tpartition /b /cg2F189F1F73E8490A914BCE0737020126
>>
>> 4. Take the partition GUID obtained in Step 3 and use it with the /cg
>> switch to obtain the GUID for the logical_media on the current tape:
>>
>> rsm view /tlogical_media /b /cgD3AB4A730A3745A491A52E62119302DF
>>
>> 5. Take the GUID obtained in Step 4 and parse it into the following
>> format:
>>
>> xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> {8} {4} {4} {4} {12}
>>
>> 6. Take the reformatted logical_media GUID and plug it into the ntbackup
>> command line with the /G switch (use double quotes):
>>
>> ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Documents and Settings\bkoperator\Local
>> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows NT\NTBackup\data\TEST.bks" /J
>> "Herzog
>> Diff %date%" /D "Herzog Diff %date% at %time%" /G
>> "2DCA38B8-113C-403D-B4C0-3C86B8BB1583"
>>
>> Note: The above data just a example for you to understand.
>>
>> How about the result? If the issue persists, please help me catch a
screen
>> shot when you view the tape GUID with command line "rsm view /tlibrary
>> /guiddisplay" for analyze.
>>
>> To make a screen shot:
>> A. Press Alt + Pr Scrn to capture a screen shot.
>> B. From Start, go to Run, enter pbrush in the Open box, and then click
OK.
>> C. Use Ctrl + V to paste the screen shot to the canvas.
>> D. From the File menu, go to Save and save as a JPG file.
>>
>> And also please let me know if you can backup data in Incremental type
>> with
>> Ntbackup utility. You can refer to the previous post to get detail steps
>> to
>> test Increment backup.
>>
>> I appreciate your time! I am happy to be assistance of you!
>>
>> Have a nice day!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Jenny Wu
>> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
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>>>Sorry to jump in, but I had a question on the GUID's...
>>>
>>>I also wish to have one backup append to the end of a tape and wish to
use
>> a
>>>script. From what I understand about your response, I used the rsm view
>>>/tlibrary /guiddisplay command to get my drives GUID and used that with
>> the
>>>/G switch. When I do this I get this error:
>>>"The operation was not performed because an invalid Removable Storage
GUID
>>>was specified."
>>>
>>>Do you need to quote around the GUID (I tried /a /g
>>>A2C51A3B13C74981A6E5B2BC7146DA5C and /a /g
>>>"A2C51A3B13C74981A6E5B2BC7146DA5C")?
>>>
>>>Or, is this the wrong GUID - you indicated to use the one for the drive
>>>(which never changes) but the NTBackup help indicates it is the tape's
>> GUID
>>>it wants. The problem is I want to append to whatever tape is in there.
>>>How do you get the GUID of the active tape in the drive using a script?
>>>
>>>Thx
>>>--
>>>Allan Williams
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>""Jenny wu [MSFT]"" <v-yanniw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> Hi Zod,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for posting here!
>>>>
>>>> For your description, I understand that you want to create Normal &
>>>> Incremental backup task and append data to an existing backup file
>>>> rather
>>>> than create a new separate file every time. If I am off base, please
>> don't
>>>> hesitate to let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Incremental backup:
>>>> A backup that copies only those files created or changed since the last
>>>> normal or incremental backup. It marks files as having been backed up
>>>> (in
>>>> other words, the archive attribute is cleared). If you use a
combination
>>>> of
>>>> normal and incremental backups to restore your data, you will need to
>> have
>>>> the last normal backup and all incremental backup sets.
>>>>
>>>> To configure incremental backup data to be appended to an existing
>>>> backup
>>>> file rather than create a new separate file every time, you can use
>>>> NtBackup wizard or command line to implement.
>>>>
>>>> I. Use NtBackup wizard:
>>>> 1. Type "ntbackup" (no quotation marks) in command prompt to launch
>>>> NtBackup utility.
>>>> 2. In Welcome page, click "Backup Wizard (Advanced)" button to start a
>>>> backup task configuration, follow the guide to configure. In the
>>>> Completing
>>>> the Backup Wizard page, click "Advanced" button to choose backup type
as
>>>> "Incremental" and then click two times "Next".
>>>> 3. In the backup option page, ensure check box of "Append this backup
to
>>>> the existing backups" and then click Next.
>>>> 4. In the When to Back up page, choose backup later to setup a schedule
>>>> backup task as you need. Then finish the configuration.
>>>>
>>>> II. You can use the /g option to append data to existing backups:
>>>>
>>>> Such as:
>>>> ntbackup backup @c:\files.bks /v:yes /hc:on /a /m differential /l:f /g
>>>> "<guid>"
>>>>
>>>> Where guid is the tape drive's globally unique identifier (GUID). Each
>>>> removable storage device gets a GUID, and every tape that you format
on
>>>> a
>>>> Windows 2000 system gets a "physical media" GUID. Like hard disks, each
>>>> tape has partitions??typically one per tape??and every partition gets a
>>>> partition GUID. Within that partition is one "logical media," which
gets
>> a
>>>> logical media GUID. NTBackup needs that logical media GUID.
>>>>
>>>> Acquiring that GUID is the stumbling block in the otherwise simple
>> process
>>>> of building the batch file. To fetch GUIDs, you use the Rsm View
>>>> command:
>>>>
>>>> rsm view /t<object-type>[/guiddisplay] [/cg<guid>]
>>>> Choices for object-type include library (to list your drives),
>>>> physical_media (to show the tapes in a drive), partition (to get the
>>>> tape's
>>>> partition) and logical_media (to show the tape's logical media). The
>>>> /guiddisplay parameter lists objects and their GUIDs. The /cg parameter
>>>> lets you specify what object you want to examine; guid is the object's
>>>> GUID. To find the GUID of your tape drive, type
>>>>
>>>> rsm view /tlibrary /guiddisplay
>>>> RSM will probably list several drives. The 32-character string to the
>>>> right
>>>> of your tape drive's name is the drive's GUID.
>>>>
>>>> For more detail information, you can refer to the following articles:
>>>> How to use command line parameters with the Ntbackup command in Windows
>>>> Server 2003
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=814583
>>>>
>>>> Ntbackup
>>>>
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Serve
>>>> rHelp/2b8c47c9-a769-46d2-9e26-f4d16f0261f8.mspx
>>>>
>>>> Related information:
>>>>
>>>> An incremental backup includes unchanged files and is larger than
>> expected
>>>> in Windows 2000 and in Windows Server 2003
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;833281
>>>>
>>>> Chapter 14 - Data Backup and Recovery
>>>>
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/maintain/featus
>>>> ability/c14w2kad.mspx
>>>>
>>>> Hope above information helps! If you have any further concern or
>>>> question
>>>> please let me know. I am happy to be assistance of you and looking
>> forward
>>>> to your reply!
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice day!
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jenny Wu
>>>> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>>>> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
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>>>>>
>>>>>I am trying to set up the onboard NTBackup on Windows 2003 Server. I am
>>>>>experiencing issues w/ Microsoft's definitions of Normal, Incremental,
>>>>>etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>I simply wish to create a BU for each partition that will simply
>>>>>_append_, or add to that same BU file on a scheduled basis. Having
>>>>>tried Normal & Incremental, NTBackup seems to want to create separate
>>>>>files each time a run is scheduled. Thanks, -zod
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