Re: Extending boot partitions

I should be good to go now Les

I am still an amateur but this group has been a godsend for part timer's
like me.

Thanks for all your help, SBS MVP's rock..


Terry


"Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.connor@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote in message news:uaENkqV8FHA.132@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> With your hardware, the hot spare can be used 'globally', meaning it can
> take over duties for one of the mirror drives, or one of the raid 5
> drives. The spare must be at least the same capacity as the drive it's
> replacing - so in your case it would work for any of your drives. An 18 gb
> obviously wouldn't take the place of a 36 gb ;-).
>
> With Raid 5, the equivalent of 1 disk is redundant. So 3 x 36 actually
> gives you 2 x 36. (If your raid 5 set was 6 disks, then you'd have 5 x 36
> useable.)
>
> Data grows to fit the space available ;-).
>
> Another consideration when adding drive capacity is matching backup
> capacity ... (while you're in a spending mood ;-)).
>
> --
> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> SBS Rocks !
> ----------------------
> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
> understand." - Confucius
>
>
> "Terry M" <terrym@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uILoCfV8FHA.3380@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sounds good Les
>>
>> I am now leaning toward getting 4 new 36G drives, I will need to pull
>> 2x18G out of the box but I can use them in the Win2K PE2500 we use for
>> Terminal Services.
>>
>> If I understand this right I would use 3x36G for the RAID5 and one as a
>> hot spare. I am not that familiar with hot spares, do they get
>> designated for a specific array, in my case the RAID5 one?
>>
>> Also how big would the RAID5 end up being, about how much is lost from
>> the 3x36G maintaining the RAID5, 20-30%?
>>
>> Thanks for your help
>>
>> Terry
>>
>>
>> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.connor@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote in message news:uzJkZIV8FHA.1000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Ahhh. Saw your earlier post on the drive sizes and numbers.
>>>
>>> 6 x 18gb would be cool. 36's or 72's would be better (especially for the
>>> 4 new drives) - a 2600 is pretty good hardware and you're probably going
>>> to run it for a few years. But no big deal, you can swap the drives for
>>> bigger ones later if you have to.
>>>
>>> I'd probably do this:
>>>
>>> Mirror the os (2 drives), raid 5 (3 drives), and the 6th for a global
>>> spare.
>>>
>>> The raid 5 could be all one d: drive of 36 gb, or you could split it
>>> (but it's hardly large enough to bother). The split could be whatever,
>>> but you might take into account the size of your data (except exchange
>>> data) versus your exchange data, and make a relative split based on
>>> existing size and a WAG at growth potential. Data could then go on D:\,
>>> exchange on E:\.
>>>
>>> If you got larger drives for the raid 5 + spare, you'd have a lot more
>>> to work with. Anyway.
>>>
>>> Once your drives are on hand, here's how I'd proceed.
>>>
>>> a) get a tape (or some other kind of full backup)
>>> b) stick one of the as-yet drives in the box.
>>> c) boot from the Paragon CD and image c: and d: partitions to the drive
>>> (and possibly the Dell utility partion, if there).
>>> d) remove the drive holding the image, so you don't inadvertently add it
>>> to a raid set.
>>> c) install the three new drives, and use the raid card bios to set up
>>> your OS mirror and Raid 5 - wait until they're built.
>>> d) install the drive holding the image, and boot from the Paragon CD.
>>> e) copy your image of c: to the 2 drive mirror - use all the space. (and
>>> the dell partition, if you want).
>>> f) copy your image of d: to the 3 drive raid set - selecting a new
>>> (larger) size.
>>> g) boot from new c: check event logs and deal with any issues.
>>> Note: if your original drive had the dell utility partition, you'll need
>>> to put it back or change the boot.ini.
>>>
>>> Once you're satisfied, you can re-assign the drive that's holding the
>>> original image as a global hot spare.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>> SBS Rocks !
>>> ----------------------
>>> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
>>> understand." - Confucius
>>>
>>>
>>> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.connor@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote in message news:emAd2pU8FHA.2716@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Hi Terry,
>>>>
>>>> For your new configuration, how many drives and what size - what type
>>>> of raid configuration are you considering?
>>>>
>>>> I'd recommend Paragon Drive-Backup - as you can do the current job with
>>>> it, plus use it as a disaster recovery tool afterwards with periodic
>>>> live images, etc.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.drive-backup.com/corporate/server/features.htm
>>>>
>>>> You can image your present partitions (C and D) (and possibly the dell
>>>> utility partition as well)
>>>> Set up your disks at the hardware level as raid <whatever>.
>>>> Then boot from the Paragon CD, restoring the images of c: and d:,
>>>> sizing them as you see fit.
>>>>
>>>> Once we know what you have in mind for disk size/numbers and raid
>>>> config we can make some suggestions on <sizing as you see fit>.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> SBS Rocks !
>>>> ----------------------
>>>> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and
>>>> I'll understand." - Confucius
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Terry M" <terrym@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23yWXqLT8FHA.736@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Hello
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using SBS 2003 Prem on a Dell PE2600 (Perc 4Di hardware Raid) and
>>>>> am running out of room on C:\
>>>>>
>>>>> Originally the system came with 1 set of 18G RAID1 drives partitioned
>>>>> at C:\ 9G and D:\ 9G.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have added more drives so now I would like to enlarge the boot
>>>>> partition to the full the original 18G disks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I can move he data off D: and remove the partition but I am not
>>>>> sure how to enlarge C: to fill it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read that DiskPart does not work on boot drives, plus these are
>>>>> basic disks. I have read mixed reports about using 3rd party
>>>>> partition utilities, or ghosting the drives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Might this be a good case for a swing migration. At the end of the
>>>>> day I don't want to reinstall from scratch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any advise or experience would be appreciated
>>>>>
>>>>> Terry Mc
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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