RE: transition pack alternative

HI Mark,

Thanks for updates.

If I understand correctly, it seems you want to restore the former backup
of SBS 2003 to a Windows 2003 server with transition packs?

If this is your issue, I am sorry we do not support to restore to a
different OS, after using transition packs the SBS 2003 did not exists, you
will have a Windows 2003 server, so I am not sure why you want to restore
the system after applying the transition packs.

You can do a clean reinstall of SBS 2003 server then restore the system to
the SBS 2003 then upgrade to windows 2003 standard server.

Maybe if you tell us why you want to do that, so that we can check if we
have any other good workaround, thanks so much for your understanding on
this issue, please feel free to post back your concerns. I am glad to be of
assistance.



Best regards,

Charles Yang (MSFT)

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| HI Mark,
|
| Welcome to SBS newsgroup.
|
| I am sorry for the delayed response due to weekend. Please understand
that
| the newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals to
| answer your systems and applications questions. Your understanding is
| greatly appreciated!
|
| Issue description:
| ===============
|
| I understand that you want to reinstall the SBS 2003 on a new hardware
with
| a same SBS server name.
|
| Analyzing and suggestion:
| ================
|
| Generally speaking, this should be a disaster recovery issue on a new
| hardware, we can restore the AD and exchange database. But we need to
| restore it to a similar hardware or you need encounter some problem. For
| your convenience, I can give you some detailed steps relate to this issue:
|
| Method 1. Refer to the migrating white paper. Move to a SBS 2003 domain
| with new domain name.
|
| Method 2. Use the disaster recovery step. Manually create the accounts
and
| move the data.
|
| Method 3. Refer to Jeff's document. Perform a 'Swing' migration.
|
|
| Method 1:
| Generally speaking, SBS 2003 should be the only PDC in the domain, so you
| need to demote the exist PDC on the domain, you can follow the
immigration
| steps to immigrate the SBS 2003 to a new hardware As I know you need to
use
| a new domain name. The user will be moved by ADMT.
|
| Migrating from Small Business Server 2000 or Windows 2000 Server to
Windows
| Small Business Server 2003
| This document describes the process for migrating from Small Business
| Server 2000 or Windows 2000 Server to Windows Small Business Server 2003.
|
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=fa187d1e-8218-4501-
| 9729-222bd8ebb64c&DisplayLang=en
|
| Method 2:
| You can also perform the disaster recover to install the SBS 2003 on the
| existing domain, By this method, you need to manually restore Exchange
| data, SharePoint Data, contents in Users shared folders. For the client
| computers, you may disjoin and then rejoin them into the domain. To
| preserve client user profiles and settings that were on the original
domain
| to the new SBS 2003 installation, a manual way is documented in the KB
| article:
| 314045 HOW TO: Restore a User Profile in Windows 2000
| http://support.microsoft.com/?id=314045
|
|
| Another way is to create a local profile, copy the original domain
profile
| to the local profile, and then let the "Setup Computer" wizard do the
task
| "map local profile to new domain profile" for you.
| As long as you create your computer accounts using the server manager''s
| "to do list" you will be prompted to migrate profile information. When
you
| join the workstations to the domain by using the web site (ie
| http://servername/connectcomputer) part of the process of joining the
| domain will allow you to migrate user settings. However, to use this
| method, you need to make sure that the profile you want to migrate from
is
| a local user profile (Not a previous domain profile):
| 1. Before joining the client to SBS 2K3 domain, create a local profile,
and
| then copy the old domain profile to a local profile.
| 2. Add the SBS Server into the network
| 3. Use the Setup Computer Wizard in SBS 2003 to join the (now) XP Pro
| machines to the SBS domain: Server Management, Standard Management,
Client
| Computers, Set Up Client Computers.
| 4. On the client, access http//<Server name>/connectcomputer to bring up
| the Setup Computer Wizard, it will then allow you to map domain user
| accounts to local profiles on the machine thus preserving your profiles:
| "Assign Users to this Computes and Migrate their Profiles".
| 5. You will Add a domain account to "Users assigned to this computer!/,
and
| then choose the existing local user profile in the "Current User
Settings".
| By Default, the value for "Current User Settings" is "None".
|
| Method 3:
|
| Also you can follow the instruction on website called swing migration'
| www.sbsmigration.com, it might also helpful to you to perform a migrate
| from the SBS 2003 to SBS 2003. With this method, you can use the original
| server and domain name for the SBS 2003 box. Also, it's not necessary to
| manually configure the clients because the new environment will use the
| original AD information.
|
| The potential problem for the swing method is that you may not be able to
| dcpromo the new server into the domain after using this method. This is
| because that one does not let enough time go by for replication to fully
| complete. If that's the case, one has 2 options:
|
| 1. Stop FRS on all domain controllers, set burflags on sbs to D4 and
start
| FRS, set burflags to D2 on all other domain controllers and start FRS.
| 315457 How to rebuild the SYSVOL tree and its content in a domain
| http://support.microsoft.com/?id=315457
|
|
| 2. Redo the migration, giving ample time for AD to replicate.
|
|
| For the transition packs issue, I suggest you call the local reseller to
| see if there are any valid period for it, it seems did not relate to the
| issue you want to do.
|
| I appreciate your understanding on this issue. Hope the above information
| helpful, if you have any further issue, please let me know. I am standing
| by for any further updates.
|
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| Best regards,
|
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|
| Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
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| | Instead of running the tran pack for SBS2003, is this scenario
| | possible? Of course, I'd have purchased the tran pack and gotten the
| | requisite media packs, I just don't want to run on a "transitioned"
| | server long term.
| |
| | Assuming the only things I care about are 1) Exchange and 2) AD....
| |
| | 1. Backup AD and the Exchange info stores from the existing SBS server
| | - then shutdown the server.
| | 2. On a new server, install Server 2003 Standard (name the server the
| | same as the old SBS server). DC Promo into a new domain controller.
| | Restart in DS Restore mode, restore AD from the backup.
| | 3. On a second new server, install Server 2003 Standard, Exchange 2003
| | (Same version/SP as SBS install, same Org and Admin Group names as the
| | SBS Install). Overwrite the default priv.edb/.stm - pub.edb/stm files
| | with the backed up versions and mount.
| |
| | The only thing that would suck is redirecting all the Outlook clients
| | to the new server name.
| |
| | it seems like if this doesn't work, all I'd have to do is shut
| | everything down, fire up the old SBS server and I'd be back at square
| | one.
| |
| | any comments?
| |
| |
|
|

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