RE: ExChSrv sends multiple copies of emails to users via POP3
- From: "Ashwin @ Sumix" <AshwinSumix@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 02:32:03 -0800
Hello Charles
How do I determine my ISP's smarthost?
In Australia my ISP is called TPG
www.tpg.com.au
SMTP server is mail.tpg.com.au
DNS Servers Primary - 203.12.160.35 /36 respectively
I know what the mail server is? But I am unfarmilar with the smarthost
structure?
Please advise
""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for updates.
>
> From your description, if you remove forward unresolved emails to your
> ISP's smarthost, you will be failed to send emails. You can just add the
> forward all unresolved the email to ISP smarthost, but you need to
> configure your Exchange to forward all emails to your ISP when run CEICW,
> you can input the ISP smarthost so that all the internet emails will be
> configured via ISP then when you send internet emails.
>
>
> For detailed information about how to run CEICW, please refer to the
> following KB article:
>
> 825763 How to configure Internet access in Windows Small Business Server
> 2003
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825763
>
> Hope the above information helpful, please feel free to post back your
> results. I am glad to be of further assistance.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Charles Yang (MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
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> | Thread-Topic: ExChSrv sends multiple copies of emails to users via POP3
> | thread-index: AcXsHKVEx7wb4V3zQUGBY4hDOeDAig==
> | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 220.245.178.134
> | From: "=?Utf-8?B?QXNod2luIEAgU3VtaXg=?="
> <AshwinSumix@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | References: <0FA856C0-EB74-4E52-AF61-D35A6295C5FD@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mAJa3AO5FHA.3556@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <06A0B996-FB47-4FBC-B009-830C92582BDB@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <uQJpKLB7FHA.1236@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | Subject: RE: ExChSrv sends multiple copies of emails to users via POP3
> | Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:47:02 -0800
> | Lines: 345
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> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:223467
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> |
> | Hello Charles.
> |
> | Thanks for the response.
> |
> | I am a little bit confused.
> |
> | Lets say I have a pop account at my Webhost called nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | This address is filtered out from the catchall.
> |
> | Now I want to send a email from internally to him.
> |
> | Do i remove the Forward unresolved email recipent to host:
> mail.isp.com.au
> | So that there is nothing in there?
> |
> | ANd create a contact?
> |
> | I did this and restarted all the exchange servers,
> |
> | I created a contact in the AD with nicks details and his SMTP address as
> | nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (same as the pop3)
> |
> | So when this is created, I went to send a email to the contact and it
> failed
> | with this response
> | Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
> |
> | Subject: Test 2
> | Sent: 11/18/2005 7:36 PM
> |
> | The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
> |
> | Nick Ball on 11/18/2005 7:36 PM
> | A configuration error in the e-mail system caused the message to bounce
> | between two servers or to be forwarded between two recipients. Contact
> your
> | administrator.
> | <domain.com.au #5.4.6>
> |
> | ANy ideas?
> | Or can you step me through this?
> |
> | Thank you
> | Ash
> |
> |
> | ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" wrote:
> |
> | > HI,
> | >
> | > Thanks for detailed updates.
> | >
> | > It seems the problem exists when you forward all unresolved the email
> to
> | > the ISP smarthost. The ISP will then deliver the email again to your
> global
> | > mailbox. Then your user will receive multiple duplicate emails.
> | >
> | >
> | > On SBS side, If you want to send email to the five external users, we
> | > suggest you create contacts in AD for that five users, you can give the
> | > external contacts for these five users. Then when you send emails to
> those
> | > five users, the SBS domain will find the right way to deliver the
> emails
> | > then it will not route to ISP for delivering. You can follow the
> methods
> | > below to create a AD contacts for those users:
> | >
> | > 1. Start the Active Directory Users and Computers snap-in.
> | > 2. Expand the server, and then right-click Users.
> | > 3. Click New, and then click Contact.
> | > 4. Type a name.
> | > 5. Click Modify, click SMTP, and then click OK to create the custom
> SMTP
> | > mail address.
> | > 6. Type the SMTP e-mail address, click OK, click Next, and then click
> | > Finish.
> | >
> | > Hope the above information helpful to your issue. I am glad to be of
> | > further assistance.
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > Best regards,
> | >
> | > Charles Yang (MSFT)
> | >
> | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
> | >
> | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> | >
> | > ======================================================
> | > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
> corresponding
> | > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
> manner.
> | > You can locate the newsgroup here:
> | > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
> | >
> | > When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check
> the
> | > "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there
> are
> | > any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
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> | > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
> | > issue.
> | >
> | > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> | > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> | > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
> doing
> | > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
> | >
> | > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
> Please
> | > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
> | >
> | > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> | > ======================================================
> | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
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> | >
> | >
> | > =====================================================
> | > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
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> | > that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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> | >
> | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
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> | > --------------------
> | > | Thread-Topic: ExChSrv sends multiple copies of emails to users via
> POP3
> | > | thread-index: AcXr44KaL//MufOCS9WiCRc/xGbWbA==
> | > | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 220.245.178.134
> | > | From: "=?Utf-8?B?QXNod2luIEAgU3VtaXg=?="
> | > <AshwinSumix@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | > | References: <0FA856C0-EB74-4E52-AF61-D35A6295C5FD@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | > <mAJa3AO5FHA.3556@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | > | Subject: RE: ExChSrv sends multiple copies of emails to users via POP3
> | > | Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:58:03 -0800
> | > | Lines: 191
> | > | Message-ID: <06A0B996-FB47-4FBC-B009-830C92582BDB@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | > | MIME-Version: 1.0
> | > | Content-Type: text/plain;
> | > | charset="Utf-8"
> | > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> | > | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
> | > | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
> | > | Importance: normal
> | > | Priority: normal
> | > | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.0
> | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
> | > | Path: TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl
> | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:223386
> | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> | > |
> | > | Hello Charles,
> | > |
> | > | Firstly thank you for all your help...
> | > | I have narrowed this down to what is my issue.
> | > | If you could help me it would be great.
> | > |
> | > | Setup: My ISP has a catchall address for domain XYZ. In a POP3 Setup
> so
> | > | anything @XYZ falls into the catchall pop3 account. It has 5
> exceptions,
> | > this
> | > | is for the users that are not part of the SBS Domain, so when a email
> | > comes
> | > | to them the catchall filters them out and delivers it to their own
> pop3
> | > | accounts. which they connect to and download.
> | > |
> | > | My Exchange Server use's a POP3 connector which connects to the pop3
> | > account
> | > | (lets call it all@xxxxxxxxxx) and downloads the emails.
> | > | Exchange then distrubutes those emails successfully.
> | > |
> | > | However, when a client on the LAN sends a email to a person who is
> not in
> | > | the Domain (the 5 exceptions) it fails, since it can not find that
> user
> | > | 1@xxxxxxxxxx - which is correct because they are not listed in the AD.
> | > | So in the Connector in the Exchange SYSTEM MANAGER -
> | > | Server\Server\Protocols\SMTP\ virtual server, in the properties in
> | > MESSAGES,
> | > | i have enabled Forward all mail with unresolved recipients to host -
> and
> | > use
> | > | their ISP's DNS.
> | > |
> | > | What happens is when a email comes into the catch all that is
> incorrectly
> | > | addressed, it uses the FORWARD fucntion, sends to the ISP, the ISP
> then
> | > | delivers it to my Catchall Address again, and SBS then downloads the
> | > | again.
> | > | Which can cause major greif if thre is more than 1 person on that
.
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