RE: ExChSrv sends multiple copies of emails to users via POP3



Hello Charles.

Thanks for the response.

I am a little bit confused.

Lets say I have a pop account at my Webhost called nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
This address is filtered out from the catchall.

Now I want to send a email from internally to him.

Do i remove the Forward unresolved email recipent to host: mail.isp.com.au
So that there is nothing in there?

ANd create a contact?

I did this and restarted all the exchange servers,

I created a contact in the AD with nicks details and his SMTP address as
nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (same as the pop3)

So when this is created, I went to send a email to the contact and it failed
with this response
Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

Subject: Test 2
Sent: 11/18/2005 7:36 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

Nick Ball on 11/18/2005 7:36 PM
A configuration error in the e-mail system caused the message to bounce
between two servers or to be forwarded between two recipients. Contact your
administrator.
<domain.com.au #5.4.6>

ANy ideas?
Or can you step me through this?

Thank you
Ash


""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" wrote:

> HI,
>
> Thanks for detailed updates.
>
> It seems the problem exists when you forward all unresolved the email to
> the ISP smarthost. The ISP will then deliver the email again to your global
> mailbox. Then your user will receive multiple duplicate emails.
>
>
> On SBS side, If you want to send email to the five external users, we
> suggest you create contacts in AD for that five users, you can give the
> external contacts for these five users. Then when you send emails to those
> five users, the SBS domain will find the right way to deliver the emails
> then it will not route to ISP for delivering. You can follow the methods
> below to create a AD contacts for those users:
>
> 1. Start the Active Directory Users and Computers snap-in.
> 2. Expand the server, and then right-click Users.
> 3. Click New, and then click Contact.
> 4. Type a name.
> 5. Click Modify, click SMTP, and then click OK to create the custom SMTP
> mail address.
> 6. Type the SMTP e-mail address, click OK, click Next, and then click
> Finish.
>
> Hope the above information helpful to your issue. I am glad to be of
> further assistance.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Charles Yang (MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
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> | Thread-Topic: ExChSrv sends multiple copies of emails to users via POP3
> | thread-index: AcXr44KaL//MufOCS9WiCRc/xGbWbA==
> | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 220.245.178.134
> | From: "=?Utf-8?B?QXNod2luIEAgU3VtaXg=?="
> <AshwinSumix@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | References: <0FA856C0-EB74-4E52-AF61-D35A6295C5FD@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mAJa3AO5FHA.3556@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | Subject: RE: ExChSrv sends multiple copies of emails to users via POP3
> | Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:58:03 -0800
> | Lines: 191
> | Message-ID: <06A0B996-FB47-4FBC-B009-830C92582BDB@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | MIME-Version: 1.0
> | Content-Type: text/plain;
> | charset="Utf-8"
> | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
> | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
> | Importance: normal
> | Priority: normal
> | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.0
> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> | NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
> | Path: TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl
> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:223386
> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> |
> | Hello Charles,
> |
> | Firstly thank you for all your help...
> | I have narrowed this down to what is my issue.
> | If you could help me it would be great.
> |
> | Setup: My ISP has a catchall address for domain XYZ. In a POP3 Setup so
> | anything @XYZ falls into the catchall pop3 account. It has 5 exceptions,
> this
> | is for the users that are not part of the SBS Domain, so when a email
> comes
> | to them the catchall filters them out and delivers it to their own pop3
> | accounts. which they connect to and download.
> |
> | My Exchange Server use's a POP3 connector which connects to the pop3
> account
> | (lets call it all@xxxxxxxxxx) and downloads the emails.
> | Exchange then distrubutes those emails successfully.
> |
> | However, when a client on the LAN sends a email to a person who is not in
> | the Domain (the 5 exceptions) it fails, since it can not find that user
> | 1@xxxxxxxxxx - which is correct because they are not listed in the AD.
> | So in the Connector in the Exchange SYSTEM MANAGER -
> | Server\Server\Protocols\SMTP\ virtual server, in the properties in
> MESSAGES,
> | i have enabled Forward all mail with unresolved recipients to host - and
> use
> | their ISP's DNS.
> |
> | What happens is when a email comes into the catch all that is incorrectly
> | addressed, it uses the FORWARD fucntion, sends to the ISP, the ISP then
> | delivers it to my Catchall Address again, and SBS then downloads the
> email
> | again.
> | Which can cause major greif if thre is more than 1 person on that header
> | (TO, CC or BCC field)
> |
> | Is there any way I can stop this from happening.
> |
> | I have already setup on the SBS POP3 Conenctor to deliver failed mail to
> a
> | user account as well.
> |
> | I have a major issue at the moment I do not how to fix this... is there
> any
> | way???
> |
> | Regards Ash
> |
> | ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" wrote:
> |
> | > HI,
> | >
> | > Welcome to SBS newsgroup.
> | >
> | > Issue description:
> | > ==============
> | >
> | > I understand that you encountered problem when receiving email which
> send
> | > to multiple internal user.
> | >
> | > Analyzing and suggestion:
> | > ===============
> | >
> | > Before we go any further, can I assume that you used POP3 connectors to
> | > receive emails from ISP's global mailbox?
> | >
> | > Generally speaking, the issue should be related to routing methods you
> set
> | > on your POP3 connectors. By default, we can set the routing rules to
> route
> | > the email to exact user via the email address on the CC or TO fields.
> | >
> | > For example, you can set a rule to route all the email with
> a@xxxxxxxxxx on
> | > the CC or To field to the exact Exchange mailbox. Please set the
> routing
> | > rule according to the steps below:
> | >
> | > 1. Open the POP3 management node on the Server managements.
> | > 2. In the POP3 mailbox type, please choose Global mailbox.
> | > 3. Then set the routing rules, configure a rule for special Exchange
> | > mailbox, for example set a@xxxxxxxxxx as the setting on the text fields
> in
> | > TO or CC fields.
> | >
> | > This will help the POP3 connector only route the emails with
> a@xxxxxxxxxx
> | > on the CC or To field email to the exact Exchange mailbox.
> | >
> | > If the issue still exists, please kindly check how many emails you
> download
> | > from ISP side, make sure that you did not receive multiple emails from
> ISP
> | > via POP3 connectors.
> | >
> | > You can also refer to the KB article below:
> | >
> | > 264249 Exchange Server Connector for POP3 Mailboxes deliver multiple
> copies
> | > of messages
> | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=264249
> | >
> | > I really appreciate your time to cooperate on this issue, please feel
> free
> | > to post back. I am glad to be of further assistance.
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > Best regards,
> | >
> | > Charles Yang (MSFT)
> | >
> | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
> | >
> | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> | >
> | > ======================================================
> | > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
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> | > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
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> | > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
> | >
> | > When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check
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> | > "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there
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> | > any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
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> | > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
> | > issue.
> | >
> | > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> | > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> | > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
> doing
> | > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
> | >
> | > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
> Please
> | > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
> | >
> | > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> | > ======================================================
> | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
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> | > that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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> | >
> | > --------------------
> | > | Thread-Topic: ExChSrv sends multiple copies of emails to users via
> POP3
> | > | thread-index: AcXkyTMg78OZ62h1TcyFhop/XF7iyg==
> | > | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 220.245.178.134
> | > | From: "=?Utf-8?B?QXNod2luIEAgU3VtaXg=?="
> | > <AshwinSumix@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | > | Subject: ExChSrv sends multiple copies of emails to users via POP3
> | > | Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:02:04 -0800
> | > | Lines: 26
> | > | Message-ID: <0FA856C0-EB74-4E52-AF61-D35A6295C5FD@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | > | MIME-Version: 1.0
> | > | Content-Type: text/plain;
> | > | charset="Utf-8"
> | > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> | > | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
> | > | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
> | > | Importance: normal
> | > | Priority: normal
> | > | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.0
> | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
> | > | Path: TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl
> | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:220242
> | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> | > |
> | > | Hello Guys
> | > |
> | > | My question is this, that I have SBS 2003 running Exchange Server.
> | > |
> | > | I have a catchall address setup at my WebHosting company (lets call
> it
> | > | XYZ@xxxxxxxxxx). WHen my exchsrv connected to this box it downloads
> all
> | > the
> | > | emails correctly, and distributes (as per the setting within the
> Manage
> | > POP3
> | > | Emails - Mailbox INformation - Global Mailbox and the Email domain
> | > name)...
> | > | them without a problem, but...
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