Re: sbs CAL's
- From: "Gregg Hill" <bogus@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:58:08 -0800
I just KNEW someone was going to say that! In that case, the server is NOT a
device, since the EULA does not include "server" anywhere in the description
of a CLIENT Access License, and according to Microsoft, in an SBS 2003
domain, there is "no such thing" as a server-to-server license.. The user
would require a CAL, though, to be legal.
Gregg Hill
"kj" <kj@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Of course when a user logs on to a member server using a domain account
> then they become an authenticating user and server becomes a device and
> really muddies all the waters. ( just don't do it!)
>
> --
> /kj
> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ONKGz4h5FHA.3588@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Ronnie,
>>
>> No, that is incorrect. Per the three different people I spoke to at MS,
>> there is no such thing as a server-to-server license. The key here is
>> that the SBS CALs are CLIENT Access Licenses. Other servers on the
>> network are NOT clients in Microsoft's eyes. I have been told by three
>> people at Microsoft that you can buy a base SBS 2003 with its five
>> licenses and add an UNLIMITED number of other servers, NONE of which
>> consumes an SBS CLIENT Access License.
>>
>> Per the EULA, a "device" is described as "...a single personal computer,
>> workstation, terminal, handheld computer, pager, telephone, personal
>> digital assistant, or other electronic device ("Device")..." Again, there
>> is no such thing as a server-to-server access license in an SBS 2003
>> domain. Other servers are not considered to be a "device" and do not
>> require a license, other than the server license used to install the
>> server software itself (Windows NT4 Server, 2000 Server, or Server 2003).
>> The additional servers can be member servers, and if they are 2000 or
>> 2003, they can be domain controllers.
>>
>> From the FAQ you posted:
>> Q. I want to have additional Windows-based servers in my Windows Small
>> Business Server 2003 domain. Do I need CALs for those servers?
>>
>> A. Your Windows Small Business Server 2003 CALs cover you for any
>> additional Windows-based servers in the domain. You do not need to buy
>> additional CALs for them.
>>
>> Per that statement and the multiple clarifications I have gotten for
>> Microsoft, you are covered for "any additional Windows-based servers" in
>> the domain. "Any" and all additional servers. "You do not need to buy
>> additional CALs for them." You can have 75 CALs, with 75 users and
>> devices, and have 200 other servers, all covered because they reside in
>> the SBS 2003 domain. "You do not need to buy additional CALs for them."
>>
>> No CAL required per additional server. Final answer!
>>
>> Gregg Hill
>>
>>
>>
>> "RG strath.ac.uk>" <ronnie.gibson<ATSIGN> wrote in message
>> news:eRbj90d5FHA.2396@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:e6iYgqa5FHA.1416@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> According to Microsoft, there is no such thing as a server-to-server
>>>> license, and SBS 2003 CALs cover ALL additional servers, even if you
>>>> have 100's of them. The additional servers do NOT consume an SBS CAL.
>>>
>>> Gregg,
>>> I'd imagine those licenses would be termed as 'Device CALs' rather than
>>> server-to-server licenses.
>>>
>>> The confusion on this topic always seems to centre over the ambiguous
>>> statement that additional server on the SBS network don't require any
>>> CALs.
>>> The conclusion usually reached is that while users don't require
>>> additional
>>> CALs to access the additional Windows Server (as they would in a non-SBS
>>> environment), the server itself does consume one CAL.
>>>
>>> So one CAL per additional server but no user CALs required for users to
>>> access those servers.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps,
>>> Ronnie
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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