RE: How to reinstate DC on network with same server name and ID bu

HI,

Thanks for updates.

In order to make more clearly about your issue, please also send me the
ipconfig/all on the SBS server side and on the windows 2000 DC side. We
need to gather these information for troubleshooting. As I know, the AD
replication error could be caused by many factors.

If there are no other information on Windows 2000 DC, you can also demote
the Windows 2000 DC then delete the computer account on SBS 2003 for
Windows 2000 DC then follow my suggestion in my first reply to join the
Windows 2000 DC as the additional DC on SBS 20003 domain, then the sync
will be automatically configured. Make sure that you create the site for
the remote DC so that you can configure the local client to logon local DC.

I really appreciate your effort on this issue.



Best regards,

Charles Yang (MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

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| Subject: RE: How to reinstate DC on network with same server name and ID
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| Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:35:02 -0700
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| Thanks for your assistance Charles. I had another run at this issue this
| weekend and I'm having trouble getting the two servers working together
to
| authenticate user's logons at the site where the Win2K server runs. Two
| problems are as follows:
| 1) In order to have users logon, I have to pull (disconnect) the
connection
| between sites so that the SBS server cannot intervene with the
authorization.
| However, once the logon is accepted, and the SBS LAN is reconnected, all
| resources appear accessible by the user for both servers.
| 2) There are periods of very slow file access on both the local Win2K
server
| and SBS03 server at random for clients on the Win2K LAN.
|
| Answers to your questions:
| Have I joined the SBS 2003 domain correctly with the Win2K server? I
| believe therre were no issues with the server's relationship before their
| separation.
|
| Is the remote DC now configured to use the SBS server as a DNS server?
The
| Win2K server was always configured to use the SBS03 server as a DNS
server as
| far as I know. You are referring to the LAN side NIC ip address being the
| single entry under DNS preferred servers on TCP/IP properties?
|
| I'm going to send you some of the recent event messages on the servers
| shortly. Looks like the whole problem is tied to getting the SBS03 server
to
| allow syncing. The long duration of disconnect seems to have caused some
kind
| of conflict having to do with tomb stoning. I've followed some tech docs
and
| tried to clear out entries from the Win2K server, but I only received
errors
| from the support tools instructed to use.
|
| Thanks
|
|
| ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" wrote:
|
| > HI,
| >
| > Thanks for updates.
| >
| > I understand that you have reconnected the Windows 2000 member DC to
SBS
| > domain, so I want to confirm that you have joined the SBS 2003 domain
| > correctly. If you confirm this issue, we need to get the event log for
| > further troubleshooting:
| >
| > This should be the DC replication issue between two DC server on SBS
domain:
| >
| > 1. Please check the event log on SBS 2003 DC and Windows 2000 DC sever
to
| > paste any related error event, we should find a lot of error event
relate
| > to DC replication. If possible, please email these event log to my
mailbox:
| > v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > 2. We want to know your DNS setting on your Windows 2000 DC, we found
the
| > error you offered relate to DNS look up issue, so I think your DNS on
| > Windows 2000 DC is not configured correctly, as you use the private
line
| > connect to SBS 2003 domain from Windows 2000 DC, so I want to know if
you
| > have configure the DNS server on SBS 2003 internal NIC as your DNS
server
| > on Windows 2000 DC? We suggest configure it as your primary DNS server
on
| > Windows 2000 DC to make sure that you can resolve the SBS 2003 domain
| > correctly. We suggest you configure your ISP' DNS as forward DNS
server,
| > please do not configure it as the DNS server on the TCP/IP list on your
| > Windows 2000 DC. If your Windows 2000 DC is also the DNS server, please
use
| > it as the primary DNS server on the TCP/IP list, while you can
configure
| > SBS 2003 DNS server as the forward DNS server, please note that you do
not
| > need to add the SBS 2003 records on Windows 2000 DNS server, it might
cause
| > some unexpected issue.
| >
| > Hope the above information helpful, please feel free to post back, if
you
| > have any further concerns. I am glad to be of further assistance.
| >
| >
| >
| > Best regards,
| >
| > Charles Yang (MSFT)
| >
| > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >
| > ======================================================
| > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
| > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
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| > issue.
| >
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| > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
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| > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| >
| > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
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| > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
| >
| > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
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| > | Thread-Topic: How to reinstate DC on network with same server name
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| > bu
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| > | Subject: RE: How to reinstate DC on network with same server name and
ID
| > bu
| > | Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 07:01:02 -0700
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| > | I don't think you understand, or I'm not understanding. I've already
| > | purchased, installed, deployed, made work and then broke connection,
and
| > | finally reconnected again, the Windows 2000 Server DC member of an
SBS
| > domain
| > | and I'm now trying to get things working again.
| > |
| > | Please advise.
| > |
| > | ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" wrote:
| > |
| > | > HI,
| > | >
| > | > From your description, I understand that you want to update the DC
on
| > | > Windows 2000 which is the member of SBS domain also to replicate
the AD
| > | > information. That means you need to get a license for Windows 2000
DC
| > as an
| > | > additional DC on SBS 2003 domain. You can refer to the article
below
| > for
| > | > adding an additional DC to SBS domain, please understand that this
is
| > the
| > | > only way for setting up additional DC on SBS domain and do the AD
| > | > replication as SBS domain can not establish any trust to other
domain.
| > | >
| > | > You can refer to the following documents to deploy additional DC in
| > branch
| > | > office on SBS domain:
| > | >
| > | >
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/windows2000serv/technologies/active
| > | > directory/deploy/adguide/addeploy/addch07.mspx
| > | >
| > | > In addition, you may need to know about the properly configuration
for
| > the
| > | > license on every additional DC, please refer to the following
section
| > for
| > | > detailed steps:
| > | >
| > | > A. Go to the additional Windows servers, open Services
console
| > in
| > | > ''Administrative Tools''. Make sure that the ''License Logging
| > services''
| > | > is running.
| > | >
| > | > B. Go to the SBS 2003 server, open ''Active Directory Sites
and
| > | > Services''. Click on Default-First-Site-Name and the double click
on
| > | > Licensing Site on the right. Make sure that the SBS 2003 server is
the
| > | > Licensing Computer.
| > | >
| > | > C. Go to the additional servers, open ''Licensing'' console
in
| > | > ''Administrative Tools''. Set the licensing mode of the additional
| > Windows
| > | > server to ''Per Seat''/''Per Device'' mode. The number of licenses
| > should
| > | > be set to be equal to the number of SBS client access license
(CAL).
| > You
| > | > can select License->New License from the menu and then select
Windows
| > | > Server from the dropdown and specify the same number of license
that
| > your
| > | > SBS server has.
| > | >
| > | > If so, it should be the AD replication issue, please understand
that
| > you
| > | > need to use domain administrator account to make sure the DC
| > replication
| > | > can be continued, as we know SBS is not allowed trust. Make sure
that
| > you
| > | > have logon SBS domain on Windows 2000 DC when doing AD replication.
| > | >
| > | > You need also to make sure that DNS server on Windows 2000 DC is
point
| > to
| > | > SBS internal NIC. You need to get the SBS internal IP address or
deploy
| > a
| > | > site to site VPN connection in order to make the DC replication
between
| > SBS
| > | > server and Windows 2000 DC.
| > | >
| > | > I appreciate your understanding on this issue; please feel free to
post
| > | > back, if you have any further concerns. I am glad to help you.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Best regards,
| > | >
| > | > Charles Yang (MSFT)
| > | >
| > | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | >
| > | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > | >
| > | > ======================================================
| > | > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
issues
| > | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
| > corresponding
| > | > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
| > manner.
| > | > You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > | > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
| > | >
| > | > When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you
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| > the
| > | > "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when
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| > are
| > | > any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
| > newsreader,
| > | > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from
your
| > | > issue.
| > | >
| > | > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread.
Although we
| > | > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
| > | > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean.
In
| > doing
| > | > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| > | >
| > | > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
| > Please
| > | > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
numbers.
| > | >
| > | > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| > | > ======================================================
| > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| > rights.
| > | >
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| > | > that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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| > | > | Thread-Topic: How to reinstate DC on network with same server
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| > and ID
| > | > bu
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| > | > <pQ0#KnVzFHA.424@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | Subject: RE: How to reinstate DC on network with same server name
and
| > ID
| > | > bu
| > | > | Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 05:57:02 -0700
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| > | > |
| > | > | To clarify the situation, I have diagramed the information
previously
| > | > | provided and supplied answers to your questions:
| > | > |
| > | > | Prior to May, the network was as below and the W2K server was an
| > active
| > | > DC
| > | > | member on the SBS domain.
| > | > | 192.168.1.x for SBS LAN
| > | > | 192.168.2.x for Win2KS LAN
| > | > | The network diagram was as follows:
| > | > | LAN-- ____ ____ -- LAN
| > | > | |--|router|===VPN===|router|--|
| > | > | SBS-- ------ (Internet) ------ --Windows 2000
Server
| > | > |
| > | > | During May, the SBS server was upgraded to Premium running ISA
2000
| > and
| > | > | installed with 2 NICs for inside and outside networks with
following
| > | > | networks, and the W2K server remote LAN was no longer able to
tunnel
| > into
| > | > and
| > | > | participate with SBS domain. The W2K server was still a member,
only
| > | > unable
| > | > | to replicate AD and stuff. All clients on LAN have been using SBS
| > client
| > | > VPN
| > | > | into SBS external NIC to participate in both LANs.
| > | > | 192.168.1.x for SBS external
| > | > | 10.0.3.x for SBS internal
| > | > | 192.168.2.x for Win2KS LAN
| > | > | The network diagram is currently as follows:
| > | > | _____ _____
| > | > | LAN--SBS--===== ====VPN==== =====----LAN clients
|

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